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The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves
goingbroke
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Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements.
That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.
It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.They are watching!
That is the bizarre — and scary — rule that now applies in California and eight other Western states. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which covers this vast jurisdiction, recently decided the government can monitor you in this way virtually anytime it wants — with no need for a search warrant.
It is a dangerous decision — one that, as the dissenting judges warned, could turn America into the sort of totalitarian state imagined by George Orwell. It is particularly offensive because the judges added insult to injury with some shocking class bias: the little personal privacy that still exists, the court suggested, should belong mainly to the rich.They are watching!
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The Government is broke and cannot hire 20 million people to track us all. Oh they'd like to no doubt.
I'm a firm believer that when this fiat currency collapses - every Government employee, law, function, department, and expenditure is going to be reviewed and in many cases removed.
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<< <i>Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements. >>
... and you have every legal right to take it and keep it if you find it. And put it on a local police car or delivery truck. Or leave it in your driveway. Or in a corner of a bar.
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<< <i>Government agents can sneak onto your property in the middle of the night, put a GPS device on the bottom of your car and keep track of everywhere you go. This doesn't violate your Fourth Amendment rights, because you do not have any reasonable expectation of privacy in your own driveway — and no reasonable expectation that the government isn't tracking your movements. >>
... and you have every legal right to take it and keep it if you find it. And put it on a local police car or delivery truck. Or leave it in your driveway. Or in a corner of a bar. >>
.......or smash it with a sledge hammer.
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hell, put cameras in my home, at work, around my yard... you're going to monitor one busy guy earning a living, raising a family, mowing lawn, taking out the trash...
yawn.
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Checking and the government will know where......
<< <i>Better get rid of that cell phone too. >>
"The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves"
They have been doing it legally since 1998
Good one Rick, Surprised more people did not mention this.
People for so long have overlooked the humble cell phone as a tracking device.
When all cell phone manufacturers and service providers
were ordered by the government to put in place a tracking system,GPS Chip for each and every
cell phone to begin implementation in 1998 . It is the E911 Law. (Look it up)
Any Police officer with a "Supposed" valid reason can call any Cell Service Provider
and just by identifying himself as a Police officer along with his badge number
and possibly by now a password. can give the operator a cell phone number
and the operator will give the Officer of the location of the cell phone.
The Law was easily passed because it will keep us "safer"
Tie that in with the new laptop's that are in every police cruiser.
All the Office has to do is punch in your plate number of your car
or believe it or not take your driver's license an slide it like
a credit card on a card reader attached to their laptop
and everything in you life comes up on the screen
in a few seconds.
It is all just a matter of if you lead an interesting enough life to expend assets to track you
I know I don't I look at little shiny metal disc's most of the time
The cell phone does not transmit your GPS location unless you dial 911 or you program your phone to do that. The default is not to transmit GPS. There are some social network sites and phone features where some people might want to transmit their GPS at all times. This allows others on the site to see where their buddies are. That we be the only scenario along with 911 calls where the police could do what you stated.
<< <i>re GPS and your cell phone:
The cell phone does not transmit your GPS location unless you dial 911 or you program your phone to do that. The default is not to transmit GPS. There are some social network sites and phone features where some people might want to transmit their GPS at all times. This allows others on the site to see where their buddies are. That we be the only scenario along with 911 calls where the police could do what you stated. >>
In one aspect you are right. You can disable the the tracking for social sites and web type applications
You can NOT shut off the tracking for E911 on any Cell Phone in the U.S.
regardless of what the cell phone is telling you
The phone will not do that unless you can find some kind
of a hack for your individual model phone that will disable it.
I have never heard of one yet. The GPS is a piece of hardware in the phone
not software
The cell service provider company can activate it at will for any cell number on their network
without you calling 911
and have done it on numerous occasions for local law enforcement.
That is an urban legend. They can't remotely control your phone.
I used to work for the cell phone companies. They can track what cell site you are connected to and give a rough estimate based on that of where you are to within kilometers. Useful if someone is lost in a National Forest of 1000's of square miles. It's far easier to search a few square miles than 1000's. They have done this. I even did this.
They can't activate your GPS and give an exact position.
I knew it would happen.
Google For Funny Story on Goberment Tracking....
As a joke, I asked my wife for some tin foil to help prevent this happening to us. She's got a good sense of humor.
People will always give up privacy for convenience, plain and simple.... assume that in all your dealings and you will be better off.