MSA Discs

sdsalezman

Would anyone be able to rank each MSA Disc set on a score of 1-10 based on degree of difficulty of obtaining using their own personal collecting experience?
The 1982 FBI discs are almost impossible to find. Are any of the others anywhere near that difficult to find?

1976 Buckmans Discs
1976 Carousel Discs
1976 Crane Potato Chips Discs
1976 Dairy Isle Discs
1976 Isalys/Sweet William Discs
1976 MSA Sports Blank Back Discs
1976 Orbackers Discs
1976 Red Barn Discs
1976 Safelon Discs
1976 Towne Club Discs
1976 Wiffle Ball Discs
1977 Burger Chefs Funmeal Discs
1977 Chilly Willee Discs
1977 Daily Isle Discs
1977 Detroit Caesers Discs
1977 Holiday Inn Discs
1977 MSA Customized Sports Discs
1977 Pepsi Cola Baseball Stars
1977 Saga Discs
1977 Wendy's Discs
1977 Zipz Discs
1978 Big T/Tastee Discs
1978 Pepsi Cola Superstars - Handcut
1978 Saga Discs
1981 MSA Discs Peter Pan/Sunbeam Bakery
1982 FBI Discs
1982 On Deck Cookies Discs

Thanks in advance.

mikeschmidt

The other toughies are Red Barn, Saga and MSA Customized.

There is also a 1975 MSA [Test?] set that is pretty darn difficult.

Agree that 1982 FBI is by and far the hardest listed.

DavidPuddy

These are the only one's I have experience with. I've put together two different player sets with all the discs, and it has come down to Dairy Isle as my last disc needed for both players.

1976 Buckmans Discs = 2
1976 Carousel Discs = 7
1976 Crane Potato Chips Discs =1
1976 Dairy Isle Discs = 8
1976 Isalys/Sweet William Discs = 1
1976 MSA Sports Blank Back Discs = 6
1976 Orbackers Discs = 5
1976 Red Barn Discs = 8
1976 Safelon Discs = 4
1976 Towne Club Discs = 2
1976 Wiffle Ball Discs = 3
1977 Burger Chefs Funmeal Discs = 3

There's also a disc that's the same front as the Peter Pan and On Deck, but it has MSA Promo stuff on the back. It's about a 7 in difficulty.
1981 MSA Discs Peter Pan/Sunbeam Bakery = 3
1982 FBI Discs = Impossible
1982 On Deck Cookies Discs = 3

There's also a disc that has the same front as the Peter Pan and On Deck, but it has MSA Promo stuff on the back. It's about a 6 in difficulty.

bobsbbcards

I agree with Marc about the Saga and Red Barn. Those two used to be insanely tough, but a few more batches worked their way into the hobby about five years ago. Still tough.

Here would be my guess as to toughest to easiest:

1983 FBI Discs
1982 FBI Discs
1975 Test Discs (w/ Seaver being the toughest by far)
1977 Cup Lids
1977 Saga Discs
1976 Red Barn Discs
1977 Wendy's Discs
1977 Customized Sports Discs
1977 Holiday Inn Discs
1976 Wiffle Ball Discs
1982 Roy Rogers NY Yankees Cup Lids
1981 Promo Discs
1985 Thom McAn Discs
1985 Subway Discs
1977 Burger Chefs Funmeal Discs
1976 Blank Back Discs
1976 Carousel Discs
1977 Detroit Caesers Discs
1977 Chilly Willee Discs
1978 Saga Discs
1976 Buckmans Discs
1977 Daily Isle Discs
1981 Peter Pan/Sunbeam Bakery Discs
1977 Pepsi Cola Baseball Stars
1976 Safelon Discs
1976 Towne Club Discs
1976 Orbackers Discs
1982 On Deck Cookies Discs
1982 Burger King Braves Cup Lids
1977 Zipz Discs
1978 Big T/Tastee Discs
1976 Dairy Isle Discs
1976 Isalys/Sweet William Discs
1976 Crane Potato Chips Discs

Edited to add both years of FBI discs.

firedawg45

anyone got a rose fbi disc for sale? thanks cc

QUITCRAB

MSA Cup lids (unpunched)..Saga...Red Barn
I have 2 Brooks Robinson unpunched cup lids for sale....50.00 a piece.
Thanks Scott

sdsalezman

Thanks everyone for your responses. Out of curiousity, are both Saga discs (1977 and 1978) hard to find or is one harder than the other?

Nugen

I'm looking for a 1985 Brett Thom McAn Jox disc...PM if you have one for sale

bobsbbcards

<< <i>Thanks everyone for your responses. Out of curiousity, are both Saga discs (1977 and 1978) hard to find or is one harder than the other? >>


77's are much harder to find.

Brock21

From my experience, I have every Lou Brock disc and Red Barn is pretty tough, Detroit Cesars is tough, and the
cup lid is real tough.

Carousel backs are fun, because I've got half a dozen different ones, but not necessarily
hard to find. I suppose there are potentially a couple hundred different Carousel backs, as
they were hand stamped by the local Carousel franchise.

Buckmans, Crane, Dairy Isle, Isaly's, Blank Back, Orbakers, Safelon, Towne Club,
Wiffle, Burger Chef, Chilly Willee, Holiday Inn, Wendy's,Big T/Tastee Freeze
are pretty easy on Ebay.

The Saga discs are kind of tough, but not like Red Barn or Detroit Caesars.

Brock is not in Pepsi or the later discs.

Isaly's is by far the easiest to find in my opinion.

A true story, I spent a couple years looking on Ebay for a Red Barn. I finally found one,
opened it on the couch, set it on the couch, came back 30 seconds later and sat on it,
creasing it down the middle. I've since gotten a couple more.

RedHeart54

Just curious, I don't know much about discs but what's the story behind these 1982 FBI discs? And who made them?

sdsalezman

1982 FBI discs were box bottoms (think 1970's Hostess Baseball) for twelve packs of Bantam juice/soda that was released in Canada.

Hammerman

1977 Wendy's in high grade is very tough-Doug

divecchia

The 1983 FBI discs are even tougher. Most people have probably not seen them. I have only seen 2 boxes with Ryan on them since 1993.

I would put the 1983 FBI disc first, then the 1982 FBI disc, then the Customized, then the Saga and then the Red Barn. At least that has been my experience while collecting Nolan Ryan.

Donato

mikeschmidt

Donato:

Who is on the checklist for 1983 FBI? I've never even heard of them!

Carew29

I would have to say this set

1977 MSA 7/11 Wax Paper Lid Set with Straw Hole Intact

GeoffEighinger

I need all but one of the Rick Manning 1977s.

QUITCRAB

I agree with Carew! No doubt the lids !!!! Unpunched!!!!

sdsalezman

Does PSA grade the 7-11 Cup Lids? I dont see them in the Set Registry.
If not, does SCG, Beckett or GAI?

divecchia

<< <i>Donato:

Who is on the checklist for 1981 FBI? I've never even heard of them! >>



Hi Marc...

Sorry, I don't have a list of the players in the set and neither does the SCD. I've never searched out other players in the set only the Nolan Ryan. Rick Bosetti is the player pictured with Ryan on the 1981 box. The 1982's are much more common.

It's a crappy picture, but here is a picture of the 1982 and 1981 FBI boxes with Ryan. If anyone has the 1981 complete box (shown on the right), I would pay $1,500 for it, maybe more if the condition is really nice.

Donato

divecchia

<< <i>I agree with Carew! No doubt the lids !!!! Unpunched!!!! >>



These are rare, but I'm sorry not nearly as rare as the 1981 FBI. I've owned a couple of Ryan's and a Pete Rose of the 1977 MSA cup lids.

Donato

Kid4hof03

<< <i>

<< <i>Donato:

Who is on the checklist for 1983 FBI? I've never even heard of them! >>



Hi Marc...

Sorry, I don't have a list of the players in the set and neither does the SCD. I've never searched out other players in the set only the Nolan Ryan. Rick Bosetti is the player pictured with Ryan on the 1983 box. The 1982's are much more common.

It's a crappy picture, but here is a picture of the 1982 and 1983 FBI boxes with Ryan. If anyone has the 1983 complete box (shown on the right), I would pay $1,500 for it, maybe more if the condition is really nice.

Donato
>>



Donato,
Thanks for sharing the picture and information. Like Marc, I have never heard of the 1983 set.

Abe

I completely forgot about a Reggie Jackson FBI disc I used to own, scan shown later in the thread.

KbKards

Probably more likely to be a 1981 FBI panel with the Bosetti on it as he played for Toronto for part of 1981 and then went to Oakland for rest of 1981 and briefly in 1982.

Kid4hof03

<< <i>Probably more likely to be a 1981 FBI panel with the Bosetti on it as he played for Toronto for part of 1981 and then went to Oakland for rest of 1981 and briefly in 1982. >>



That actually makes a lot of sense. I once had a Reggie Jackson that listed him with New York, I have a scan around here somewhere, but it resembled what Donato showed as a 1983. It was the only one I had seen up until seeing this box.

Kid4hof03

Here's the Reggie scan:

sdsalezman

I'm borrowing these images from Mr. Mopar. Who's a Steve Garvey collector.
He has images of both the [assumed] 1981 and 1982 FBI discs on his blog.







http://1978theyearitallbegan.blogspot.com/2010/03/garvey-spotlight-march-1.html

stevegarveyfan

I have the 7-11 Lids set unpunched, and with all the original "padding" around the edges, which is how they were made. I believe it's a complete set. I wish PSA DID grade this issue.

Any idea of the value of such a set?

sdsalezman

Thursday August 26, 2010 1:59 PM (NEW!)



I have the 7-11 Lids set unpunched, and with all the original "padding" around the edges, which is how they were made. I believe it's a complete set. I wish PSA DID grade this issue.

Any idea of the value of such a set?

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Do you have scans of any of them with the padding that you can post online?

Thanks in advance.

divecchia

<< <i>I'm borrowing these images from Mr. Mopar. Who's a Steve Garvey collector.
He has images of both the [assumed] 1981 and 1982 FBI discs on his blog.







http://1978theyearitallbegan.blogspot.com/2010/03/garvey-spotlight-march-1.html >>



It is listed as 1983 in the Nolan News, and I assumed it was correct, but it makes that it's an '81 when you take into account when Bosetti played for Toronto.

Thanks for the research and info...Donato

stevegarveyfan

It's really a lid, ya see:

It looks a little rough in the scan, but I think this is how they just 'looked'.

I didn't look at 'em all, but I did see a Rollie Fingers, Fred Lynn and Willie Stargell in the lot as well.

redlegs

Here is my 1975 MSA Test Disc Johnny Bench. It is only a PSA 4 but it is the highest graded. All of the Bench's that I have seen have printer's marks on his face like this one.

redlegs

Here is a 1981 MSA lid. I'm not sure how hard these are to find.

sschauer513

Interesting 1981 Bench Lid my Rose says Coca-Cola above him were there variations or 2 different set?

sschauer513

I have another question since MSA stuff always seems to be a lot of guessing and piecing together is MSA still around or Michael Schechter? Be great to have a real list of what they made.

sschauer513

Here are 3 more 1981 FBI Discs

Pete Rose, Gary Templeton, Larry Hisle

divecchia

<< <i>Interesting 1981 Bench Lid my Rose says Coca-Cola above him were there variations or 2 different set? >>



I'm not sure if there were variations in the set or if it is 2 completely different sets, but the Rose that I once had in my collection had the Coca-Cola logo above his head also.

By the way that's a great looking 1981 FBI Rose disc. Thanks for showing it, I have never seen it before.

Donato

Hank36

I've been working on getting each of the Mark Fidrych discs for the past couple of years or so--but I'm confused: The Beckett website claims that Fidrych has both a "1977 Customized Discs #19" and a "1977 MSA Discs #19". Are there really two different discs? The disc I have reads on the back: "CUSTOMIZED SPORTS DISC AVAILBLE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYERS..." and so on, continuing with "...AVAILABLE THROUGH MIKE SCHECHTER ASSOCIATES, INC...." and finishing with "ALSO AVAILABLE IN A VAREITY OF PAPER, PLASTIC AND GLASS PRODUCTS".

Sean1125

How do you get rid of these noone on the boards seems to want them???

I've got like 17 Hank Aaron Carousel, 27 frank robinson carousel... another 17 aaron blank back...

1963ellsworth22and10

<< <i>How do you get rid of these noone on the boards seems to want them???

I've got like 17 Hank Aaron Carousel, 27 frank robinson carousel... another 17 aaron blank back... >>

If you have any 1976 Carousel MSA Discs of Cubs players that I need I will be glad to take them off of your hands.

Planemonkey

For Catfish Hunter the Customized and 1975 red white and blue

Brock21

Do you have any Lou Brock Carousel? If so, I would be interested if I do not have that particular store #

Hank36

<< <i>I've been working on getting each of the Mark Fidrych discs for the past couple of years or so--but I'm confused: The Beckett website claims that Fidrych has both a "1977 Customized Discs #19" and a "1977 MSA Discs #19". Are there really two different discs? The disc I have reads on the back: "CUSTOMIZED SPORTS DISC AVAILBLE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYERS..." and so on, continuing with "...AVAILABLE THROUGH MIKE SCHECHTER ASSOCIATES, INC...." and finishing with "ALSO AVAILABLE IN A VAREITY OF PAPER, PLASTIC AND GLASS PRODUCTS". >>



Can somebody please help me with this? Thank you.

DavidPuddy

<< <i>

<< <i>I've been working on getting each of the Mark Fidrych discs for the past couple of years or so--but I'm confused: The Beckett website claims that Fidrych has both a "1977 Customized Discs #19" and a "1977 MSA Discs #19". Are there really two different discs? The disc I have reads on the back: "CUSTOMIZED SPORTS DISC AVAILBLE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYERS..." and so on, continuing with "...AVAILABLE THROUGH MIKE SCHECHTER ASSOCIATES, INC...." and finishing with "ALSO AVAILABLE IN A VAREITY OF PAPER, PLASTIC AND GLASS PRODUCTS". >>



Can somebody please help me with this? Thank you. >>



As far as I know those are the same disc.

1963ellsworth22and10

<< <i>

<< <i>I've been working on getting each of the Mark Fidrych discs for the past couple of years or so--but I'm confused: The Beckett website claims that Fidrych has both a "1977 Customized Discs #19" and a "1977 MSA Discs #19". Are there really two different discs? The disc I have reads on the back: "CUSTOMIZED SPORTS DISC AVAILBLE WITH MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYERS..." and so on, continuing with "...AVAILABLE THROUGH MIKE SCHECHTER ASSOCIATES, INC...." and finishing with "ALSO AVAILABLE IN A VAREITY OF PAPER, PLASTIC AND GLASS PRODUCTS". >>



Can somebody please help me with this? Thank you. >>

I don't know of any blank backed 1977 MSA discs, like the common blank backed 1976 MSA discs which were probably meant to be stamped by the Carousel stores. The 1977's that I know of are Chilly Willie, Customized Sports, Dairy Isle, Detroit Caesars, Holiday Inn, Saga, Wendy's, and Zip'Z. There also different sized Burger Chef, Pepsi, and Wiffle discs, and Slurpee cups and Slurpee cup lids. As far as I know there is only one type of the customized disc.

Hank36

Thank you, I appreciate it. I figured the Beckett database somehow listed the same disc twice under two different names, but I just wanted to double-check this with somebody.

Stingray

For anyone interested in the 1975 test cards, here are a few I just came across, not graded though.


LINK

stopthetrain

<< <i>How do you get rid of these noone on the boards seems to want them???

I've got like 17 Hank Aaron Carousel, 27 frank robinson carousel... another 17 aaron blank back... >>



Looking for the following backs:

Manny Sanguillen: blank, Dairy Isle, Pepsi Cola, Red Barn, Saga, Wiffle Ball, and Carousel other than #9310.
Rennie Stennett: Red Barn, Wiffle, Chilly Willee, Dairy Isle, Detroit Caesar, Holiday Inn, Pepsi, Saga, Wendy's, Zipz and Carousel other than #427, #485, #818, #925.

Dboneesq

TRAIN ... ANY INTEREST IN THE FOLLOWING?

I had an almost complete autographed set of MSA blank back discs. I have the following Pirates autographed discs available if you are interested:

Sanguillen
Stennett
Medich
Zisk
Parker

stopthetrain

Doug, pm sent, thanks.

celticboyshow

I found these recently, all FBI with no MSA date. Includes Nolan Ryan, Rick Bosetti, Reggie J



ackson and more

Gansetttime

Great score! Perhaps it's the complete set?