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Is my grading off?

I consider myself a pretty good grader but this coin has me perplexed, I have it pegged at the low VF range not VG. Your thoughts on this coins grade & holder , I think someone got a great coin at a very good price although they paid more than VG prices

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks vg to me....
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Looks at best a Fine (12)
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I would grade it Fine-15. The sharpness of the date is definitely in its favor, but it does not
    have enough feather detail in the wings for Very Fine.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,947 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a F12. Maybe it was silently net graded down for a few hairlines or other minor defect.

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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    I have never seen a fine12 with a full date before.
  • TJM965TJM965 Posts: 446 ✭✭✭


    Definitely under graded. Has a full date. Compare it to the PCGS vg10 which only has 1 and a half numbers visible. At least F15.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    due to strikes and different wear rates for different dates I always thought you judged these by the relief of Miss liberty and the amount of date left on the pre 24s. While I do agree, a lot of the feathers are missing on the eagle it still looks rounded and the reverse carries only a small amount of weight anyway. I see good stars/liberty/and date & I think VF20 and to be honest the date alone is good for VF30 but it is the rest of the coin dragging it down. IMO anything that would net grade this down that far should land it into a problem holder.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say that VG-10 for the first piece is a bit too conservative; I go with Fine-12 or 15; but I've always found circulated Standing Liberty quarters hard to grade. The coins that get EF and low end AU grades always seem over graded to me while some coins like this one kind of get pounded.
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>I would say that VG-10 for the first piece is a bit too conservative; I go with Fine-12 or 15; but I've always found circulated Standing Liberty quarters hard to grade. The coins that get EF and low end AU grades always seem over graded to me while some coins like this one kind of get pounded. >>



    Any coin with satin luster (most of the time) is hard for me to grade at the XF-AU range when luster is such a large % part of the grade.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,898 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I would say that VG-10 for the first piece is a bit too conservative; I go with Fine-12 or 15; but I've always found circulated Standing Liberty quarters hard to grade. The coins that get EF and low end AU grades always seem over graded to me while some coins like this one kind of get pounded. >>



    Any coin with satin luster (most of the time) is hard for me to grade at the XF-AU range when luster is such a large % part of the grade. >>



    No I go by sharpness more than luster for the EF grade, and I see too much wear to suit my taste on most of the EF Standing Liberty quarters I see.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    f-12 or f-15, may have been downgraded for some minor porosity

    Tom

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know the series, but my reaction was that it looks awfully nice for a VG.
    When in doubt, don't.

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