New find 2009 satin cent error!!!!!
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I have contacted Mr. Wexler already and will forward this to him if he confirms it deserves further examination/attribution. I did not see this particular error listed on his site (last updated 7/24). I won't jump the
gun or get too excited...(I know most people are already sitting up here saying something like "oh, great, another 2009 Lincoln error....."). This one however is on the obverse of one of the satin finish cents from
the UO9 36 coin mint set. So being that it's a lesser minted coin and there haven't been a ton of errors discovered, I'm hoping it's something special. I purchased a total of six sets and only two had this "error".
Forgive me for not divulging more at this time, but it seems premature and would be personally embarrassing if it wasn't what I thought it was or that it was already attributed. I will update this thread when
it is clear which way the wind blows. Just wish me luck and stay tuned!
gun or get too excited...(I know most people are already sitting up here saying something like "oh, great, another 2009 Lincoln error....."). This one however is on the obverse of one of the satin finish cents from
the UO9 36 coin mint set. So being that it's a lesser minted coin and there haven't been a ton of errors discovered, I'm hoping it's something special. I purchased a total of six sets and only two had this "error".
Forgive me for not divulging more at this time, but it seems premature and would be personally embarrassing if it wasn't what I thought it was or that it was already attributed. I will update this thread when
it is clear which way the wind blows. Just wish me luck and stay tuned!
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<< <i>. I won't jump the gun or get too excited... >>
Nice title.
lol
Just kidding.
Good luck.
Steve
may as well spill the beans here.
Aerospace Structures Engineer
<< <i>you've already got your neck out by sending it to Wexler...
may as well spill the beans here. >>
Yea, if you've already sent it out to Wexler you'll get credit for the discovery. I assume it's a doubled die, is this correct?
Franklin-Lover's Forum
been identified, but until his response I won't know. I will share with you once I know more about it. This may take awhile so bear with me and I will follow up asap.
<< <i>A picture would help.... it is at least unique enough for you to pursue... so worth showing to us. Cheers, RickO >>
Otherwise it's like you are coming on saying I have a secret but I'm not gonna tell you.
Lance.
Downer once I opened the thread. No photos!
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<< <i>Not sure I get the point of this thread. Announce it or sit on it. Ain't fair to put this out there and then say "there really is nothing to share on these boards".
Lance. >>
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Repetition of ignorance is ignorance raised to the power two.
<< <i>I have not submitted this to Mr. Wexler. I have only emailed him to inquire about it. He has not responded to my email so far, so there really is nothing to share on these boards. >>
Ok...thanks for sharing then.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
is old news to the forum members here. I promise I will show pics when appropriate. My thread title once again was just a little jest about most of the members reactions to 2009 Lincoln error cents. Hope
I didn't tweak anyone's nose too hard. I will revive this thread once I have more definitive information...until then
<< <i>Sorry all, not trying to be a tease... in fairness, would any of you reveal a possible find prior to it being recognized by a variety expert? Also, I don't want to be embarrassed if this is considered insignificant or
is old news to the forum members here. I promise I will show pics when appropriate. My thread title once again was just a little jest about most of the members reactions to 2009 Lincoln error cents. Hope
I didn't tweak anyone's nose too hard. I will revive this thread once I have more definitive information...until then
Nope....I wouldn't reveal a possible find prior to it being recognized...or, maybe I might...all depends.
But, I wouldn't post a thread about it, with no real info. THAT, I know I wouldn't do.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
To answer your most recent question, VAMWorld is routinely used for vetting possible new discoveries of Morgan and Peace dollars before sending them to Leroy Van Allen, and with excellent results with respect to both finding new varieties and educating the people that post their candidate coins. I don't understand why you don't want to risk "embarrassment" by posting a picture of what you found here. If a legitimate new variety, you'd establish yourself as reporting it to the numismatic community first. If not, you'd learn from a lot of people why not, and there's really nothing embarrassing about that.
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WE will wait.
Ron
Good luck with it
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Would you bust open a PCGS PROOF 66 RED DCAM 2009 S Formative Years reverse Lincoln Cent to weigh it, if you thought that it might be an off-metal coin? The reason I ask is because there is a microscopic scratch along the edge of Lincoln's book that is silver in color, not at all copper, on a PCGS slab I own. As you all know (or maybe not), all 2009 PROOF and UNCIRCULATED SET cents were minted using the original 1909 composition bronze alloy, 95% copper, 5% tin and zinc. Business strike cents of 2009 from Philadelphia and Denver were copper-plated zinc, 99.2% zinc and only 0.8% copper. It is possible that planchets from business strikes may have gotten inadvertently mixed with the PROOF and UNC set planchets, seeing how the possibility of confusion in 2009 could have resulted in such an error. Four different reverse designs, three different minting processes and a shortened staff of Mint employees due to Congressional limitations on small denomination mintage in 2009 could also have contributed to the possibility of off-metal strikes. The copper-plated zinc coins get really ugly after a short time of circulation exposure to weather and ground, unlike the original composition cents which hold up a lot longer. A copper-plated zinc 2009 cent in either PROOF or "SATIN FINISH UNC" state would be a valuable coin, if it exists.
The photo tends to shift to red, but in my microscope the scratch is silver.
2.7 or 3.2? I have resisted the urge to crack it open for years now, for fear of being wrong.
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Full coin pics would help too.
@jplasvegas
Also would be a good place for a break (if proofs are struck numerous times and possibly with higher pressure) and especially on a zinc planchet.
So after 13 years there is still no answer.
Collector, occasional seller
Give it time.
Oh, I think we know the answer....> @jplasvegas said:
Find someone with an XRF...
If it only looks silver in the microscope, it could just be reflecting the light source.
Look for and purchase another 2009 Satin Finish Cent in the exact same slab that yours rests in.
Weigh both and see if there is a difference.
There shouldn't be, and if there is, BINGO!
Pete
No one even cares about the 2009 cents anymore.
That ship sailed years ago.