Merc folks, where did all the Red go?

DeepCoin · March 26, 2002 1:56AM

I was just looking at the Mercury Registry Set and I noticed ZERO red there. I guess it is because PCGS has not updated for a few days, but it seems odd. I checked the Modern Type set and saw a number of updated entries there.

I know I added two coins on Friday night and yes, it is supposed to take 3 business days to update, but I have never seen the Mercury Registry with NO updated sets.

Thoughts?

keithdagen · March 26, 2002 3:33AM

Wow, not only no red in the Merc area, but no responses in an hour and a half. Did the rest of the guys go on vacation and forget to tell you, or did they finally start their own board.

I know that you are seeing a lot of red in the Modern Type because we finally have a feel for what PCGS is about to do and are scrambling to get prepared for the changes.

Keith

a2labmom · March 26, 2002 4:26AM

I'm waiting for my latest (and first) submissions to come back. I sent in my 16D, 42/1 and 42/1D for grading. Once they come back, I'll add them to my tiny little set. And, who knows, if I like the results of my submission, I may send in some more. I have some awfully pretty raw Mercs that can be slabbed...

cosmicdebris · March 26, 2002 5:49AM

I should have some red soon in the Type sets myself. Hey Keith have you heard any news from BJ lately?

DeepCoin · March 26, 2002 5:59AM

Bill,

The updates just occurred for two items I added on Friday. I dont know when you put yours in the system. I am thinking that the Update flag goes away via a timer of some sort and it had been a few days since the program was run.

Anyway, our favorite color is back.

cosmicdebris · March 26, 2002 6:41AM

Mine just showed up a few minutes ago. BJ must be updating now.

kieferscoins · March 26, 2002 6:44AM

Does BJ update or Carol update? It probably dosen't matter, but I was wondering.

Cameron Kiefer

DIMEMAN · March 26, 2002 6:55AM

I probably will be putting some Red on my Mercs late this week. Looking to catch and pass Fairlaneman.

grip · March 26, 2002 7:55AM

Im realy PO'd i was high bidder on teletrade at closing only to find out the seller bought back the coin? My bid was over opening ?and right at CDN ask.I don't think i will be doing business with them unless they change there policy.On a good note Goose had PM'd me about some nice looking coins he had seen at the show from Larry Whitlow?I gave him my list and he will get back with me in AM=checker board ?Hope so.Good luck to all.Al

tggr · March 26, 2002 8:29AM

Hey Deep,
Congrats I see you bumped me back one. Did you smile on the way by `?? HE HE .
Way to go.
The red is back.

Ray

DeepCoin · March 26, 2002 8:36AM

Ray,

We have been dancing around the 20 / 19 spots for a while. I think we will both soon be passed by one of the rising stars (must be nice to post 4 at a time). However, if we keep going at this rate we will soon be bumping up against the middle of the pack. Keep going my friend and we shall drive each other into the top 10 one day in the distant future.

Fairlaneman · March 26, 2002 11:34AM

"Looking to Catch and Pass Fairlaneman." Come on now Jon. I worked VERY Hard to get There.

Additions to My set will come Very Slowly from now on. Mostly Big Dollar (For Me) Coins left. If only I could un-load a few NGC Coins then Maybe a couple would be slipped in.

Did add a couple to the NB and Toned Set but they Did Not show up today.

As Always "Adolph's Little Lady Rules": Ken

DeepCoin · March 26, 2002 12:30PM

Ken,

In the spirit of helping you (and me...LOL) out, I have a nice white 1935 MS66 Merc for sale on the BST board. I figured you might want to add to your NB collection while you save up for the big boys you need for your main set. This might help you make up some ground on some of the other sets as you add to your NB set.

Mark · March 26, 2002 12:41PM

I, too, am looking to add a coin and I, too, am looking to pass Fairlaneman. As a matter of fact, nothing personal Ken, but my guess is that only 3 of the Merc collectors are not currently looking to pass you...sets number 1, 2, and 3! Well, maybe your NB set isn't diligently seeking to pass your first set, so perhaps there are 4 sets that aren't looking to pass. Now, whether I ever pass Ken...well, I am sure as heck NOT going to hold my breath.

Mark

Fairlaneman · March 26, 2002 1:36PM

Rick:

Would Like to help you out on the 35P but a Dime came up for sale on eBay that I think I want. Its a 19.......... Opps Can't say. Last time I opened My Mouth a 1939S went else where !!

Mark:

You are making Me feel like the Fox in a Fox Hunt. He (The Fox) Runs,Hides, and Leads Everyone on a Merry and Enjoyable Chase but in the End gets Caught.

More than Likely this will happen also in the Registry.

Take Care: Ken

Cocoinut · March 26, 2002 2:26PM

I hope add some red to the Merc chart later this week. If they don't arrive by Friday, I'll definitely have some coins to add next week, and maybe move up a notch or two.

Jim

DeepCoin · March 27, 2002 12:10AM

Ken,

I understand completely... I am saving up to bid high on a 1926-S on eBay right now. Ohhh, I guess I will let you win that one as I just bought a nice 30-S last week. I need to see some red next to your name soon. Good luck!!

Fairlaneman · March 27, 2002 12:24AM

Rick:

Theres a 26S on Ebay ? I must have missed that one.

Must Go To Work so I'll check Ebay when I get home.

Thanks for the Tip.

Have a Nice Day Everyone: Ken

DeepCoin · March 27, 2002 9:55AM

Ken,

To save you looking, here is the reference on eBay for the 1926-S

1926-S US Mercury Dime PCGS graded MS63
Item # 1342167305

Good luck! I know this is one you are looking for. Much better than chasing an XF1921....LOL

a2labmom · March 27, 2002 10:10AM

I have a question that may have already been asked, but here goes.

How are set grades calculated for Mercs?

DeepCoin · March 27, 2002 10:38AM

Right now the Mercury set is not weighted so the total points are fairly easy to calculate. Just add up all the point you have for each coin, i.e 66 + 67 and divide by 77 (the number of coins in the set). You must subtract 2 points for each coin that is not full bands.

When you have the complete set, then the set points will equal the average grade, except that we will be weighted in a couple of months and then it all changes some. To illustrate my point, if you look at the top two sets, the two numbers are the same as they are not missing any coins.

I hope this helps, I can be very obtuse at times.

a2labmom · March 27, 2002 10:49AM

And for the optional coins, like the 2 overdates, nothing gets added or subracted?

Also just to make sure I understand this correctly...
AG03, VF30, VF35, MS65FB = 127 (since the AG03 is not FB, it would only count as 1, the VF30 as 28 and the VF35 as 33, I think...)

grip · March 27, 2002 11:07AM

Beth
The red + is as you say optional and has no weight .Means nothing except for the collector.Al

Fairlaneman · March 27, 2002 11:58AM

??? Will There Be RED Tomorrow or Friday???

I Think So !!

Take Care: Ken

DeepCoin · March 27, 2002 12:19PM

I should have clarified the non Full Bands deduction. It is my understanding (and I may be wrong here) that the 2 point deduction is only on MS coins or those 60 and above on the Shelton scale.

Thus an MS60 non FB would rate the same as an AU58 coin. If you look at the rating of my set, it is 64.xx and all my coins are 66 and 67. There is a two point deduction on all the coins there.

I hope that explains it better.

Ken, I will be watching to see the RED under your sets soon! Don't be shy, what is in the wings?

Cocoinut · March 27, 2002 12:23PM

I thought I'd have a coin to add this week, but I got a call from the seller today, saying that they had sold the coin weeks ago and forgot to remove it from their inventory. They've searched, but have been unable to find a replacement. I've had numerous dealings with them over the past 2 years, and have promised to make it up to me on my next order.

Barring any further mishaps, I should have 4 Merc's to add next week, but one of them is a variety and won't count toward my set's ranking.

Jim

grip · March 27, 2002 1:18PM

I have a few coming next week from Larry Whitlow for evaluation,in which i thought was real nice of him.
Maybe some red,Geeez i cant keep my mind on this ,im watching raiders of the lost ark for about the 10 time

.Later guy's and good night.Al

Fairlaneman · March 28, 2002 10:53PM

................................................................IT's FRIDAY......................................................................

Is a New Topic going to be Started or is this one to be Continued ? Maybe a Poll is needed for this.

Have a Nice Day see you at about 5 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Ken

Edit: Because I could Not Spell "See" correctly. Not a Good Start for the Day.

DeepCoin · March 29, 2002 7:48AM

Ken,

Until someone starts a new Merc thread, I will help keep this one going. I see you are bidding on the 1926-S on eBay. Where do you think the reserve is for an MS63? Good luck on that coin!

As to the Red factor, I just finished getting my first problem coin corrected with PCGS. I bought a 1935-D MS66 coin from Heritage and the certification number did not appear in their data base when I tried to enter it. No, it was not one of the ones starting with 50. It took 2 days to get fixed, but I should have an update on Monday or Tuesday.

I always seem to add a coin right after they do an update.

Who else is adding? Pat Vetter, I know you have some coming....

grip · March 29, 2002 8:17AM

Ken,
I have 3 coming from Larry and one in grading as of now.There is one other i was going to bid on Ebay,from Marino(heritage)24-D but looked to have a gash below the eye.I emailed him and he said SEEMS? to be on holder.Hmmmcant figure that one out=no bid.Al

Mark · March 29, 2002 11:43AM

Well, I have 1 new coin and 1 minor up-grade coming. These are coins that ultimately will reside in my son's collection, but until he does something remarkable (eg, all A's and B+'s on his report card) I will hang onto them. And, I figured that because they are mine until I give them to him...I might as well as add them to my collection. Plus, even if he does pull all high grades, I still won't give them to him until I have better replacements for me. After all, grades are one thing, but coins are something else!

Mark

Merc folks, where did all the Red go?

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