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DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
I'll go with a nice round number - 50 years of age.

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  • Average? I'd say 45...although I'm 23.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    That's probably pretty close. I'm 23, and I always tell people that I'm one of the few people at coin shows that either has hair, or has hair that is a color other than gray.

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  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    I would agree with 45+ and ditto on the hair comment commoncents. image


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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd have to agree in the 45 y/o range.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Im 29. Average age I would say is 40.
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    Whoops double post!
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  • Im 33 but most of the people I know that collect are twice my age.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the group photo from the ANA that was posted a lot of grey showing.

  • edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388
    Q. David Bowers just had an article on coin collector demographics in this week's Coin World. He says we're aging.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I used to be a younger collector but unfortunately I'm not anymore. I am now 37 and feel old.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A hundred years ago the average was old, and it still is.

    By definition it appeals to people with more leisure time on their hands, which tends to be the older demographic.

    Probably a more worrisome issue is that all boomers who could find cool stuff in pocket change when they were kids won't have a like generation coming in after them.

  • Range: 50-55. I'll supply some rationale: baby boomers. Remember, we had a lot less cool stuff to occupy ourselves back then. image
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I suggest the average age to be 55. Go to a local coin club meeting most anywhere, most members are on Medicare.
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ...lots of youngsters here. image
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65+, though participants on this forum are generally younger than that.
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  • ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,495 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Luckily, I still have my hair and it's not gray (or at least not so anyone can see!). image

    Could it be possible that the younger numismatists are not as interested or active in coin clubs and associations as the older generation is/was, and are not yet experienced enough to become board members of larger organizations such as the ANA so that's why the "face" of coin collectors seems older even though in actuality it's probably younger than we think?
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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    Based on the coin club i quit (because too many really old dudes) i'd say it is a least 60. Now i am almost a grey haired old geaser myself, but these guys made me look like an Olymipian! image
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Based on the coin club i quit (because too many really old dudes) i'd say it is a least 60. Now i am almost a grey haired old geaser myself, but these guys made me look like an Olymipian! image >>

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i'm 50 (glad i made it this far to image )
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    In my observations I believe the median age is somewhere between 55 - 60. Youngsters tend to collect while young (often by force by their zealous collector dad who tries to cram the habit down their kids' throats) then drop out sometime during their middle teen years, usually around the time they get a drivers license. Then once they establish a family and professional life they will rediscover the hobby and yearn to become a full time coin dealer when they retire.

    As for coin clubs, there are a lot of people who belong to coin clubs and attend the meeting who do not actively collect coins. Sometimes finances are a factor, but I believe that many of the seniors attend the meetings solely for the social factor.
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  • CalebCaleb Posts: 739


    << <i>I bet it is youner than it used to be but older than most realize. We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. And f the average age is 50, that has to be youner than the serious collectors from the mid 1800's when serious collecting started thru the 1950's & 1960's. We are also living longer now in most although losing a member at 47 is heartbreaking but it also seems to be the exception. So if anyone is surprised to hear that the average age seems old think again.

    RIP IGWT >>



    How old to you have to be to be a serious collector? image

    So some people bash “moderns” and now it seems that some bash “YN” image

    Just curious image
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭


    << <i>65+, though participants on this forum are generally younger than that. >>



    I also think most are easily 55+ and the point about this forum having a bias is
    very relevant. Older folks tend not to use the internet as much as younger in my
    experience.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    "Older folks tend not to use the internet as much as younger in my
    experience."

    ...yeah but we're learning how to use the 'puter at the 60+ image
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,375 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I bet it is youner than it used to be but older than most realize. We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    I never got the memo that you could only be a serious collector if you were rich. Man I'd love to see Bill Gates' collection. He's a collector and doesn't even know it!

    That attitude, apart from just being offensive, is the reason that so many young people are turned off by so many dealers. I surely don't have the financial resources of many others in the hobby, but I can show off my collection with pride knowing that I've done more than my fair share of due diligence to only buy the very best that is available within my budget constraints, or occasionally passing on something because I can't afford the quality I require. I take pride in knowing that often, collectors with much greater means, who can buy much more expensive versions of what I own (if they can find one with enough eye appeal) have made offers to buy coins from my collection, even though they're "cheap." I take pride in knowing that my collection is full of coins I love to look at, which fit my strict criteria for technical quality and eye appeal, even if that means I only add but a few coins a year. I take pride in knowing that I have nicer coins that many collectors who have more money but less discipline, and thus don't go for the best.

    But I DON'T take crap from people who disparage young people as being limited in their abilities to be fine collectors, regardless of financial means.
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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭

    great response airplanenut. I agree. Most dealers find the almighty dollar is more important than personal teaching time with YNs. Sad. I know my local B&M dealer is like that.

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  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116
    I say 40-50. I'm only 27 and been off and on since 8.
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  • I agree with Jeremy. I also agree with those who mentioned that this forum is younger than the average age of coin collectors (and we can thank the internet for that). I'd guess the age to be around 60, as it is a bit unusual to see a collector or dealer without gray hair, glasses, and a solid amount of disposable income.
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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    I'd disagree. I think someone who is collecting Lincolns strictly from circulation can be just as serious a collector as the guy who's putting together a set of bust halves by die marriage. The Lincoln collector could even be more serious.

    It's not the size of your wallet that matters.
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    Really is hard to say. I'd say the average age of a coin club attendee would be in his 60s while internet board junky average might be in their 40s. Generational differences on how to communicate and discuss the hobby. The coin club crew probably enjoy the monthly meetings while my generation has been used to an instant society so we enjoy the 24 hour access to coin discussions.

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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Mr Potatoe head sir once again you have twisted the intent of my comment and it ain't the first time so I am quite used to it. YN = just that YN by definition... >>

    I'm not sure what you think I'm twisting, as I didn't even mention YNs in my post. For all any of us know, the Lincoln collector could be 80 years old.
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  • I'm 15, but most collector's I see are retired, at least 50. I hear about many collectors who start when they're in elementary school though.
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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>

    You said:

    "Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed..."

    and I disagreed with the "the serious collector has to be well heeled" part.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,375 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>YN = just that YN by definition, nothing to do with the wallet only have to do with being a beginner. Serious colelctors are not YN's, they been doing it for a long time and again that has nothing to do with the size of one's wallet. >>

    Quite the opposite. What you wrote makes no suggestion that experience makes for a serious collector, and rather only that money does. That said, a YN could be collecting for 10-15 years, and you better believe some YNs have experience that puts them at the very top for their specialty.



    << <i>I stand corrected, then what was the point of your post? I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>



    You wrote this:



    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    These statements imply that serious collectors:

    1- Must be older. A YN does not have the age required to have enough income to be a serious collector.
    2- Must have financial means. Arguably, someone collecting from circulation would not require the income you seem to suggest, as the coins are basically free, however hard they may be to find.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>YN = just that YN by definition, nothing to do with the wallet only have to do with being a beginner. Serious colelctors are not YN's, they been doing it for a long time and again that has nothing to do with the size of one's wallet. >>

    Quite the opposite. What you wrote makes no suggestion that experience makes for a serious collector, and rather only that money does. That said, a YN could be collecting for 10-15 years, and you better believe some YNs have experience that puts them at the very top for their specialty.



    << <i>I stand corrected, then what was the point of your post? I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>



    You wrote this:



    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    These statements imply that serious collectors:

    1- Must be older. A YN does not have the age required to have enough income to be a serious collector.
    2- Must have financial means. Arguably, someone collecting from circulation would not require the income you seem to suggest, as the coins are basically free, however hard they may be to find. >>

    I think Realone shoud wave the white flag.image
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>YN = just that YN by definition, nothing to do with the wallet only have to do with being a beginner. Serious colelctors are not YN's, they been doing it for a long time and again that has nothing to do with the size of one's wallet. >>

    Quite the opposite. What you wrote makes no suggestion that experience makes for a serious collector, and rather only that money does. That said, a YN could be collecting for 10-15 years, and you better believe some YNs have experience that puts them at the very top for their specialty.



    << <i>I stand corrected, then what was the point of your post? I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>



    You wrote this:



    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    These statements imply that serious collectors:

    1- Must be older. A YN does not have the age required to have enough income to be a serious collector.
    2- Must have financial means. Arguably, someone collecting from circulation would not require the income you seem to suggest, as the coins are basically free, however hard they may be to find. >>

    I think Realone shoud wave the white flag.image >>



    Indeed. I have seen all kinds of posts on this board, from the sublime (usually with pics) to the ridiculous. For the latter, just look at some of the statements pertaining to this thread.image
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  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    really old.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    97? Or maybe I am just speaking about the number of elderly, mean and grumpy people that I tried to be nice to and say hi to at the Clearwater Coin Show today? A lady with a walker and a man in a scooter about had a brawl in the isle....

    Out of the 27 tables that I seriously leaned in over to look at the items available only 6 people said anything to me. Three of which I had to start talking first...I guess I was there at lunch time and I interrupted their greasy, mayo filled sandwiches. Sorry to interrupt! God forbid I try to buy anything from them. 1 person seemed so troubled when I asked to see something. I had very nice conversations with two dealers though....they were young, relatively speaking...maybe in their late 40s or early 50s.

    Soooo....yeah, I think it is 97. image
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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭


    << <i>97? Or maybe I am just speaking about the number of elderly, mean and grumpy people that I tried to be nice to and say hi to at the Clearwater Coin Show today? A lady with a walker and a man in a scooter about had a brawl in the isle....

    Out of the 27 tables that I seriously leaned in over to look at the items available only 6 people said anything to me. Three of which I had to start talking first...I guess I was there at lunch time and I interrupted their greasy, mayo filled sandwiches. Sorry to interrupt! God forbid I try to buy anything from them. 1 person seemed so troubled when I asked to see something. I had very nice conversations with two dealers though....they were young, relatively speaking...maybe in their late 40s or early 50s.

    Soooo....yeah, I think it is 97. image >>




    While I have met some really great and friendly people our hobby does tend to attract those lacking in people skills and put on a poopy face. Gem and fossil shows do too.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    ...those lacking in people skills and put on a poopy face... >>



    POOPY FACES! That's the terminology! Wow. That is what I saw today, a lot of POOPY FACES. image
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I dunno; skewing older. I'm 38 now but have been a serious collector since the age of 14. Can I still be a YN? image
  • Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭✭
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  • CalebCaleb Posts: 739


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>YN = just that YN by definition, nothing to do with the wallet only have to do with being a beginner. Serious colelctors are not YN's, they been doing it for a long time and again that has nothing to do with the size of one's wallet. >>

    Quite the opposite. What you wrote makes no suggestion that experience makes for a serious collector, and rather only that money does. That said, a YN could be collecting for 10-15 years, and you better believe some YNs have experience that puts them at the very top for their specialty.



    << <i>I stand corrected, then what was the point of your post? I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>



    You wrote this:



    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    These statements imply that serious collectors:

    1- Must be older. A YN does not have the age required to have enough income to be a serious collector.
    2- Must have financial means. Arguably, someone collecting from circulation would not require the income you seem to suggest, as the coins are basically free, however hard they may be to find. >>

    I think Realone shoud wave the white flag.image >>



    I don’t know who the Realone is and after reading his first post, I don’t think that I want to know him. His statement

    << <i> We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. >>

    I took as offensive and belittling if not just out right “bashing” YN.

    While I’m only 14 years old, just had a birthday two weeks ago, I’ve been collecting for five years now with my dad. I have several collection listed in the Registry with both PCGS and NGC in the Kennedy series under the name Acadia Collection. We have expanded the collection to include all of the varieties recognized by CONECA as illustrated in the “Signature Sets” at NGC. I’m not sure what else we need to do to be classified as a serious collector?

    I don’t tell others what to collect or at what level to collect at and I don’t like it when someone else tries to tell me. I just think they are arrogant and rude, that was the reason for my first post to this thread.

    Sorry for the vent,
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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well the shows I go to the avg. age is probably 55+.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>YN = just that YN by definition, nothing to do with the wallet only have to do with being a beginner. Serious colelctors are not YN's, they been doing it for a long time and again that has nothing to do with the size of one's wallet. >>

    Quite the opposite. What you wrote makes no suggestion that experience makes for a serious collector, and rather only that money does. That said, a YN could be collecting for 10-15 years, and you better believe some YNs have experience that puts them at the very top for their specialty.



    << <i>I stand corrected, then what was the point of your post? I never gave a definition of a serious collector to exclude anyone from collecting lincolns from circulation, why say that I did Mr Potatoe head? >>



    You wrote this:



    << <i>We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. Like a previous poster said, the serious collector has to be well healed, and that means aged to be able to afford such whimsical pieces of U.S. history. >>

    These statements imply that serious collectors:

    1- Must be older. A YN does not have the age required to have enough income to be a serious collector.
    2- Must have financial means. Arguably, someone collecting from circulation would not require the income you seem to suggest, as the coins are basically free, however hard they may be to find. >>

    I think Realone shoud wave the white flag.image >>



    I don’t know who the Realone is and after reading his first post, I don’t think that I want to know him. His statement

    << <i> We are talking serious collectors here I assume and by definition YN's would be left out of the calculations because they are just that, YN. >>

    I took as offensive and belittling if not just out right “bashing” YN.

    While I’m only 14 years old, just had a birthday two weeks ago, I’ve been collecting for five years now with my dad. I have several collection listed in the Registry with both PCGS and NGC in the Kennedy series under the name Acadia Collection. We have expanded the collection to include all of the varieties recognized by CONECA as illustrated in the “Signature Sets” at NGC. I’m not sure what else we need to do to be classified as a serious collector?

    I don’t tell others what to collect or at what level to collect at and I don’t like it when someone else tries to tell me. I just think they are arrogant and rude, that was the reason for my first post to this thread.

    Sorry for the vent,
    Caleb image >>



    This young person is what it is all about. While I am old enouph to be his grand father he and his father have been my internet friends for about five years. It was fun watching him build his Kennedy set to replace me in the top five of the registery back when he had to make comments and deals threw dad.
    Hope that these younsters keep pushing the age down especially when they are able to discuss issues of the hobby this well.

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First, to answer the OP's question, I think the median age has dropped slightly in the last 23 years (I started collecting in 1987). I would put the age at about 53 now and probably closer to 58 then. I think a large part of that is the popoularity of collecting that was introduced by the internet age.

    But I also want to post due to what I think were some rather disparaging remarks towards YN's, and a few towards collectors who do not have the money involved that some of our posters do. I am of the mindset that a couple posters here should rethink and/or appologize for their coments, and should remember that YN's (whether under 18 or just substancially younger than them), and low budget collectors are just as vital to this hobby (if not moreso) than they are.

    When someone is trying to become (or has become) a fellow collector, young or old, and regardless of whether they can afford thousands or tens of thousands, or just a five and ten spot now and again, the respect and comradarie of pursuing the same passion should be enough to crack the door open to the world which many of us have occupied for quite a bit longer than the new collector has.

    Here on this board, we do a pretty good job of that ... most of the time. I vote we try to keep it that way.



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    I would have never imagined at 23 years old how life would have progressed, and how collecting would have stayed with me. I also would have never dreamed that I could own and keep some of the coins I have, some of which I have now owned for going on 23 years, and very well may own for the next 23.



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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Average age?
    Is 'not quite fossilized' close enough?




    edit to say

    << <i>the serious collector has to be well healed >>

    This comment is not really well thought out otherwise I'd need a new hobby.image
    In case it is well thought out, it is pompous.

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