I wish I had those images when I was a teenager going thru rolls of silver quarters. I came upon so many dateless Type One's - and I couldn't tell a 16 from a 17 without an actual dated example in front of me.
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What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim >>
Check the oval fold just above the 19. It appears more closed and flat on the 1916.
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Actually this is a really great way to note the subtle differences in the diework between the 1916 and 1917 Type 1 coins. Thanks for showing us this!
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify.
<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify. >>
Not when the coins are so worn that the date doesn't show. And at that point, there are still other diagnostics that do show.
<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify. >>
Not when the coins are so worn that the date doesn't show. And at that point, there are still other diagnostics that do show. >>
Not to mention being able to tell altered dates by looking at the other diagnostics.
Nice post. As others have mentioned, it would be very informative to see dateless ones morph. And maybe a set of VFs, VGs, and AGs to watch them wear. Endless possibilities for your talent. Thanks.
<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics. Thanks Jim >>
The diagnostic I find most useful (especially for very worn or dateless coins) is the shape of the curve of the bottom of the gown outside liberty's right foot. I keep hoping to spot a dateless, slabbable 1916.
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I wish I had those images when I was a teenager going thru rolls
of silver quarters. I came upon so many dateless Type One's -
and I couldn't tell a 16 from a 17 without an actual dated example
in front of me.
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<< <i>Great work! Now we just need to create one that gradually "morphs" from the 1916 to 1917. ;-) >>
How is this?
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics.
Thanks
Jim >>
Check the oval fold just above the 19. It appears more closed and flat on the 1916.
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<< <i>I worked a long time on that, I hope someone saves it and puts it on a website somewhere. >>
Or, maybe on a poster to hang in the grading room.
<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics.
Thanks
Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify.
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics.
Thanks
Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify.
Not when the coins are so worn that the date doesn't show. And at that point, there are still other diagnostics that do show.
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics.
Thanks
Jim >>
I am not an expert on these, but I think the 6 and 7 are the easiest diagnostics to identify.
Not when the coins are so worn that the date doesn't show. And at that point, there are still other diagnostics that do show. >>
Not to mention being able to tell altered dates by looking at the other diagnostics.
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<< <i>What are the actual diagnostics, other than the inner shield, the head into the border, and the flatness of the garment over her right biceps. That's all I know and would appreciate any additional diagnostics.
Thanks
Jim >>
The diagnostic I find most useful (especially for very worn or dateless coins) is the shape of the curve of the bottom of the gown outside liberty's right foot. I keep hoping to spot a dateless, slabbable 1916.
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Thanks to the OP
I seen this comparison image from another forum years ago.
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you did that before i even joined the forum.![:+1: :+1:](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/+1.png)
I was able to save it-just because I think it's cool. Great job!
It's tricking my brain into hearing it switch, but only when it switches to the 1916
That's pretty neat. Nice work
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