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LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
However, we are up to president #14, and one president had two wives (both beautiful!).

So how is it that no other person smart enough to lead a country could find a pretty wife?

WTH? John Tyler had it going on!

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JFK's wife was fairly attractive.
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>However, we are up to president #14, and one president had two wives (both beautiful!).

    So how is it that no other person smart enough to lead a country could find a pretty wife?

    WTH? John Tyler had it going on! >>



    James Buchanan had a wife - too bad they didn't commemorate William Rufus King:

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    << <i>King was close friends with James Buchanan, and the two shared a home in Washington, D.C. for fifteen years prior to Buchanan's presidency.[2] Buchanan and King's close relationship prompted Andrew Jackson to refer to King as "Miss Nancy" and "Aunt Fancy", while Aaron V. Brown spoke of the two as "Buchanan and his wife".[3][4] Further, some of the contemporary press also speculated about Buchanan and King's relationship. Buchanan and King's nieces destroyed their uncles' correspondence, leaving some questions as to what relationship the two men had, but surviving letters illustrate the affection of a special friendship, and Buchanan wrote of his communion with his housemate.[3] Buchanan wrote in 1844, after King left for France, "I am now solitary and alone, having no companion in the house with me. I have gone a wooing to several gentlemen, but have not succeeded with any one of them. I feel that it is not good for man to be alone; and should not be astonished to find myself married to some old maid who can nurse me when I am sick, provide good dinners for me when I am well, and not expect from me any very ardent or romantic affection." Such expression, however, was not unusual amongst men at the time. While the circumstances surrounding Buchanan and King have led authors such as Paul Boller to speculate that Buchanan was "America's first homosexual president", there is no direct evidence that he and King had a sexual relationship.[3] >>

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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    I guess Joshua Speed should have a spouse coin as well.
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears that, coinwise, both of Tyler's wives are now unavailable (from the mint).

    The mintages will likely be shockingly low.

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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>JFK's wife was fairly attractive. >>



    Not enough for him unfortunately. image
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does this mean that the next set of presidential commemoratives will be a series
    of aluminum coins depicting "second ladies"?

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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    Do you really think Bill Clinton will die in the next 5 years??? If he doesn't then there will be no Hillary coin.
  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    I don't know . . .

    According to Tiffany's, Ol'Dolly was a pretty fine looking heifer . . .

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  • droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dolly was a pretty fine looking heifer >>



    She sure had the udders! image
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    << <i>there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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    Do you really think Bill Clinton will die in the next 5 years??? If he doesn't then there will be no Hillary coin. >>



    Wouldn't it depend on whether or not Hillary is alive or dead, and not Bill?
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034


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    << <i>there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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    Do you really think Bill Clinton will die in the next 5 years??? If he doesn't then there will be no Hillary coin. >>



    Wouldn't it depend on whether or not Hillary is alive or dead, and not Bill? >>



    No, Bill only.

    And how Hillary jumped up the yuck list ahead of Barbara Bush is beyond me.

    This is a pretty shallow thread, eh?
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>However, we are up to president #14, and one president had two wives (both beautiful!).

    So how is it that no other person smart enough to lead a country could find a pretty wife?

    WTH? John Tyler had it going on! >>




    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.








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    << <i>there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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    Do you really think Bill Clinton will die in the next 5 years??? If he doesn't then there will be no Hillary coin. >>



    Wouldn't it depend on whether or not Hillary is alive or dead, and not Bill? >>



    No, Bill only.

    And how Hillary jumped up the yuck list ahead of Barbara Bush is beyond me.

    This is a pretty shallow thread, eh? >>




    This is an interesting point. If Bill Clinton dies, but Hillary is still living, then Bill could be on the Presidential Dollar coin (if he's been dead for at least two years at that point, I think), but Hillary can't be on the Hags Series unless she has also died. The Federal law states that no living person can be depicted on a circulating coin (paraphrasing). Conversely, if Hillary has died, but Bill is still alive, he won't make the Pres Dollar, and I'm not sure what they would do at that point. Would they still make a Spouse dollar if the spouse has died, but the husband is still alive?

    At that point it may depend on the party affiliation of the subject and who's in charge at the time.
  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034
    The First Spouse series is not considered to be circulating coinage. I'm 90% sure that only the President has to be deceased and not both he and the spouse.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>there referred to as "hags"


    .......i just cant wait till they get to Hillory Clinton ......what a FOX

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    Do you really think Bill Clinton will die in the next 5 years??? If he doesn't then there will be no Hillary coin. >>



    Wouldn't it depend on whether or not Hillary is alive or dead, and not Bill? >>



    No, Bill only.

    And how Hillary jumped up the yuck list ahead of Barbara Bush is beyond me.

    This is a pretty shallow thread, eh? >>




    This is an interesting point. If Bill Clinton dies, but Hillary is still living, then Bill could be on the Presidential Dollar coin (if he's been dead for at least two years at that point, I think), but Hillary can't be on the Hags Series unless she has also died. The Federal law states that no living person can be depicted on a circulating coin (paraphrasing). Conversely, if Hillary has died, but Bill is still alive, he won't make the Pres Dollar, and I'm not sure what they would do at that point. Would they still make a Spouse dollar if the spouse has died, but the husband is still alive?

    At that point it may depend on the party affiliation of the subject and who's in charge at the time. >>




    The law is written that a First Spouse coin is made for each Prez Buck that is made. And I think the law says that Prez buck is only made if the Prez has been dead for at least a year before the time of minting. Accordingly, at this time, no Prez Buck or First Spouse coins will be made for the Carters at both are still living. However, a Prez Buck and a First Spouse coin will be made for each of the Reagans in 2016 since Ronald Reagan has died, regardless of whether Nancy is still living in 2016.
  • So, I reckon that overrides the law about no living person being on a coin? Interesting.

    With today's "the heck with the laws, we'll do whatever we want" attitudes, I'm surprised half of Hollywood aren't already on coins too.

    Alright, I think this has been covered. Next.

  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The First Spouse series is not considered to be circulating coinage. I'm 90% sure that only the President has to be deceased and not both he and the spouse. >>

    I thought it was called the "First Spouse" series of coins, not the "First Spouse of Dead Presidents" coin series? Why would this coin series not include ALL of the first spouses?
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the presidential dollar series open-ended, or does it stop forever whenever it has reached the last deceased president? If a president dies after the series has "ended," will they strike a presidential dollar for him or her? And how would this affect the First Spouse series?

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  • Al Gore will cry about it and ask the supreme court to let Hillary In. Breaking newes is that Big Al and Hillary have had it going on ever since Monica ruined her dress.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,611 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess Joshua Speed should have a spouse coin as well. >>



    Are you one of these "log cabin Republicans?" image

    For those who don't know about this, it is a group of gay Republicans who make that claim that Abe Lincoln had a relationship with Jashua Speed ("Well I'm moved in, Speed!") that went beyond sharing a bed, which was common for men in the 19th century when housing was scarce ... ah sleeping together and nothing else ...
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