Question about 1832 quarter

pruebas

One of the things that I am sure most of us experience is that when someone knows we are a coin collector, they invariably ask us what some particular coin is worth. My specialty is world coins and I know little about early US coins, particularly varieties and valuation.

A friend in Mexico bought this coin and has asked me what it is worth. We both collect Mexican coins but I guess me being American, he thinks I know about US coins. Well, I don't!

I realize the images are not particularly great, but can anyone help me out here and tell me about this coin? Is it genuine? Any particularly rare or common variety? (I realize it has some PVC damage and cleaning, so it will probably not be able to be holdered.)

Thanks for any help you can give me!

Eagleguy

It is a B-2 die marriage, which is only slightly more rare than the only other die marriage (B-1) for this year. No real premium based on the rarity. Grade could be in the AU range, depending on luster, if it weren't for the corrosion.

JH

rhedden

That is a high-dollar coin if the greenish residue can be removed. My advice is to send it to NCS and see what they can do with it. 1832 is a difficult date to obtain, and it looks like AU55 to 58 details with luster remaining.... valued at around $800 if properly conserved and graded by PCGS or NGC afterwards. Otherwise, still $300-$400 retail with the spots.

Billet7

Agree on all counts. I would see if it can be conserved. A fairly difficult coin to get in AU. If it were conserved in a PCGS holder, it would be worth a upward $1000, depending on what it slabbed at. I would give it 53-55 details. It hurts me to see the PVC damage.

BillJones

I agree with the others that it is a coin with AU sharpness, but possible PVC damage. If the PVC can be removed and no damage is found on the coin, it should grade at one of the AU level numbers.

One thing. It would be helpful ifyou made your photos a little smaller in the future. This photo is so large that it runs off of my computer screen.

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pruebas

Thanks for your help, everyone.

No one thinks it is a Chinese fake? I was leery of that being the case. So I guess NCS may be the best option here.



<< <i>One thing. It would be helpful ifyou made your photos a little smaller in the future. This photo is so large that it runs off of my computer screen. >>



Bill, I agree, it did that to mine too. But I didn't know how else to show enough detail to study the coin. Sorry!

Barndog

I am pretty sure that is not a fake. If it is, they have perfected the art

LoveMyLiberty

<< <i>It is a B-2 die marriage, which is only slightly more rare than the only other die marriage (B-1) for this year. No real premium based on the rarity. Grade could be in the AU range, depending on luster, if it weren't for the corrosion.

JH >>



I agree with everyone's comments, except this is the B-1 variety, with the large arrowheads that extend to near the dentils and the base
of T3 is closer to A1 than E2, and the right claws are re-engraved and the rev. center dot is between stripes one & two.
There is a die crack next to the curl crossing the inner points of S13 & S12, almost to S11.

Here's another example

partagas

I recommend first soaking in acetone for 24 hours. Then remove an rinse under water. Change acetone, and repeat for another 24 hours.

See how well it turns out. Or send it to ncs for conservation and pay them to do it.

Eagleguy

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<< <i>It is a B-2 die marriage, which is only slightly more rare than the only other die marriage (B-1) for this year. No real premium based on the rarity. Grade could be in the AU range, depending on luster, if it weren't for the corrosion.

JH >>



I agree with everyone's comments, except this is the B-1 variety, with the large arrowheads that extend to near the dentils and the base
of T3 is closer to A1 than E2, and the right claws are re-engraved and the rev. center dot is between stripes one & two.
There is a die crack next to the curl crossing the inner points of S13 & S12, almost to S11.
>>



Wow. I don't know how I typed that wrong. I was staring at the book while I was doing it. Temporary dyslexsia I guess. Thanks for the correction.

JH

DoubleEagle59

Look at the nice pristine surfaces.

I think it's much better than an AU.

Very possible MS 60+ grade.

But that green crud has got to come off.

RichieURich

I agree with everyone's comments, except in my opinion (but not Tompkins') the 1832 B-1 is significantly scarcer than the B-2. I've heard of a hoard of 40 1832 quarters, 7 were B-1 and 33 were B-2. I purchased a small group (9 or 10 coins) a couple years ago and there were more B-2's than B-1's.

LoveMyLiberty

My anecdotal opinion is that the 1832 Quarter is quite scarce in mid to higher uncirculated
condition. I've been looking for a nice one for over 5 years with little luck. It's one of those
coins everyone thinks is readily available, but try to find one. JMO.

Eagleguy

I got mine from Billet7 here on the boards



JH

coindeuce

On the coin presented by the OP, are the doubled left talons specific to the 1832 B-1 reverse?

LoveMyLiberty

<< <i>On the coin presented by the OP, are the doubled left talons specific to the 1832 B-1 reverse? >>



If you are referring to the talons on the viewer's right, then yes, that is a B-1 marker.

Eagleguy's coin is a B-2.