Liberty Head Nickel Fans & Experts....What Grade Do You Think...?

keyman64

Ok, so I have 1 'V' in MS65, graded by NGC....1883 'No Cents'....and couple that with a few grading books, I would like to think I have a general idea what things should look like in different grades.

About two years ago I picked up this RAW 1883 'With Cents' from a local coin shop. I want to know how I did with my purchase price. I plan on sending both coins into PCGS so as to get the pretty PCGS Plastic Holders.

What grade do you think PCGS will assign to this toy? I am going to jump off the deep end and guess that it is MS....but beyond that is where my guessing stops. Thanks! I will be happy to report back....in forever....when I get them back from PCGS.

Greg

relicsncoins

Love all of the die cracks in that piece........I'm going with 64.

STONE

Very clean looking coin for a CENTS.

I'd say 65, and I think you made an awesome purchase!

speety

It looks like it'd fit in next to my MS-64 quite nice. Also, this coin is better struck than most for this date, even with a couple flat stars on the obverse.

Type2

Same MS-64

Elcontador

Surfaces have a few minor contact marks in non-grade sensitive areas, the coin is very well struck except for stars one and two, which is not a big deal, and the toning is not unattractive. If the eye appeal in hand is there, I can see this in a 5 holder. I might add that for some reason, the 83 With Cents Nickels I've seen usually have these kind of die cracks.

collegecoincollector

love those die cracks on the reverse! i'll wager a 64 with a good shot at 65 due to strike and luster. keep us posted

keyman64

Thanks everyone! The color is very accurate and I think the photos are very close to the coin in hand. It is hard to find them with full strikes in the hair above the forehead ...as far as I can tell in my limited experience.

So, do you think $85 makes it a good purchase then?

Greg

speety

<< <i>Thanks everyone! The color is very accurate and I think the photos are very close to the coin in hand. It is hard to find them with full strikes in the hair above the forehead ...as far as I can tell in my limited experience. >>



After 7 years of searching we have only found one 'fully' struck 1883 no cents nickel (and we've looked in every major auction and multiple national shows every year...). It was in a MS-66 holder, and we didn't hesitate to pull the trigger, they simply are not out there. Your coin is much better struck than the majority. They either come with full obverses or reverses, but rarely both. Your coin has a full reverse but lacks detail in a few stars. Not bad though...

keyman64

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<< <i>Thanks everyone! The color is very accurate and I think the photos are very close to the coin in hand. It is hard to find them with full strikes in the hair above the forehead ...as far as I can tell in my limited experience. >>



After 7 years of searching we have only found one 'fully' struck 1883 no cents nickel (and we've looked in every major auction and multiple national shows every year...). It was in a MS-66 holder, and we didn't hesitate to pull the trigger, they simply are not out there. Your coin is much better struck than the majority. They either come with full obverses or reverses, but rarely both. Your coin has a full reverse but lacks detail in a few stars. Not bad though... >>



Wow, that's a long time to be looking! The couple of stars on my piece do hold it back...

MFH

I think that was the best $85 you ever spent !!

Stars # 1 & 2 being flat may keep it out of a 65 holder;
but as most have said so far, this coin is very well struck.

I also like the die cracks - and the overall look of the coin.

Good luck on your submission !!

291fifth

Is that toning or light chatter in the fields?

My guess is that PCGS will grade it MS64.

erwindoc

Great purchase! Solid 64. I'm jealous, I want to start the set, but too many other things going right now. If it needs a home, let me know!

TomB

It looks like a nice coin and you did very well on the purchase price. Be aware, however, that if you want to send this and your NGC certified coin to PCGS that unless PCGS has changed their submission policies you will have to fill out two invoices and will have to pay two return postage and insurance fees since they do not combine orders of different submission types.

drddm

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<< <i>Thanks everyone! The color is very accurate and I think the photos are very close to the coin in hand. It is hard to find them with full strikes in the hair above the forehead ...as far as I can tell in my limited experience. >>



After 7 years of searching we have only found one 'fully' struck 1883 no cents nickel (and we've looked in every major auction and multiple national shows every year...). It was in a MS-66 holder, and we didn't hesitate to pull the trigger, they simply are not out there. Your coin is much better struck than the majority. They either come with full obverses or reverses, but rarely both. Your coin has a full reverse but lacks detail in a few stars. Not bad though... >>




I tend to agree with Speety, however think that if the luster is really ALL there (hard to tell from your pics), then you have a good shot at a 65.

Here is a 64 and a 65 for comparison purposes. The 65 (bottom pic) may have a flat left ear of corn and some slight weakness in the stars, but the luster made this one a 65. BTW, I bought it raw for $95 off of ebay several years ago, and it still remains one of my better Lib nickel purchases to date.

speety

<< <i>Stars # 1 & 2 being flat may keep it out of a 65 holder;
but as most have said so far, this coin is very well struck. >>



This is one series that they really don't take strike into consideration imho. I've seen more MS65/66s with flat strikes than with full strikes...

I agree it has a shot at MS-65, i just personally like the coin more at MS-64. Best of luck!