Send my 1864 H10c in for upgrade?

rhedden

This 1864 H10c is one of the best pieces in my entire collection. It's presently PCGS MS66. I personally think it has claims to MS67, as there are no hairlines in the fields and the luster is unbelievable- the best I have seen on any H10c. One of the few PCGS MS67 coins for this date is for sale right now at David Lawrence RC. The most significant difference seems to be the extensive clash marks on my coin (and the toning on my coin, which is quite vibrantly colored in-hand, especially under the date). Both coins have a couple of tiny ticks scattered about the drapery. What do you say- should my coin be re-submitted for an upgrade? Was this coin held back by the clash marks? Have a look at the MS67 before you answer, if you don't mind (but I won't link it here because it belongs to someone else).

Barndog

DLRC photos never show the luster. That being said, unless you are in the registry game or plan on selling your coin, why seek the upgrade? The coin won't change and will still be one of the nicest in your collection/existence.

LoveMyLiberty

I like yours better! It may have just a few more contact marks, but nicer eye appeal and interest
with the clash. Can't tell how much luster is on the 67. Strike seems the same.

Keep yours as a 66.

LoveMyLiberty

BTW the 67 has clash marks, perhaps not as pronounced, but hard to see
the way the coin is lit.

coinguy1

I don't think the clash marks will negatively impact the grade in the least. But your coin does look to have a number of obverse ticks, which I think would keep it out of a 67 holder. By the way, I purposely did not look at the other coin you mentioned, as what I think of it wouldn't impact what I think of yours.

Cladiator

It is what it is, regardless of what anyone prints on a label. Save your money and time.

BillJones

Given the scattered marks I see on Ms. Liberty's shins and other body parts, I don't see an MS-67 in this coin's future. It might get an MS-66 + because of luster and eye appeal, but it's not an MS-67 IMO.

messydesk

First of all, if DLRC thinks they'll get the strongest bids for an internet auction of a MS67 half dime using a flatbed scanner for pics, they're sadly mistaken.

Anyway, I really like your coin, and I'm not sure about the 67. About all I can tell is that the 67 has fewer ticks along the front edge of Liberty's left leg than yours, as well it should. The "tic count" differential between the two coins should keep them at different grade levels, so I don't see yours in a 67 holder. I like the color of yours better, and can only assume that the luster on the 67 is outstanding based on the number, but not the picture. Strike is the same on both coins. The clash marks are the same on the 67, and don't show up as well because of the scanner. They don't affect the grade and would only negatively affect the sale of the coin to a type set builder who may prefer something from more pristine dies.

Cladiator

Am I the only one that see's both coins pictured as being the same coin?

Barndog

<< <i>Am I the only one that see's both coins pictured as being the same coin? >>



both of rhedden's images are the same coin. You have to go to the DLRC site to see the MS 67 coin

coinguy1

<< <i>Am I the only one that see's both coins pictured as being the same coin? >>

No. Those images are of the same coin. Here is a link to the other/different coin being offered by DLRC: See here

CaptHenway

It's a lovely piece. Who cares what the grading services call it?

You know, the 1864 Half Dime was listed as a Proof only issue for many years. About 1976 I was able to convince Ken Bressett that the 48,000 business strike mintage is correct.

TD

tightbudget

Too many scattered ticks on Liberty for a 67.

coindeuce

I see the strike over the upper left portion of the wreath being stronger on the DLRC coin.

Cladiator

<< <i>

<< <i>Am I the only one that see's both coins pictured as being the same coin? >>



both of rhedden's images are the same coin. You have to go to the DLRC site to see the MS 67 coin >>

Aha! LOL ! That's funny

kryptonitecomics

<< <i>I don't think the clash marks will negatively impact the grade in the least. But your coin does look to have a number of obverse ticks, which I think would keep it out of a 67 holder. By the way, I purposely did not look at the other coin you mentioned, as what I think of it wouldn't impact what I think of yours. >>




+1 Really like your coin but it looks to come up just a tick mark or two from an MS67 according to my grading standards.

partagas

Nice coin, and I say just leave it as it is. You could submit it and get a 66+