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are some collectors crooks?

tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭
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  • AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭
    The "numisMafia" strikes!image
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are potential crooks everywhere....
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  • waterzooeywaterzooey Posts: 412
    But remember there are some crooks who are collectors....

    sad sad world
  • dirtygoldmandirtygoldman Posts: 18
    This is criminal. They should be charged.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess what surprises me is that an officer of the club wants to shut the club down because of what he sees as unethical (at best) behavior of a significant part of the membership. Good for him. Of course, missing is the back story of his relationship with the accused part of the membership. I also wonder why a local club with such a large membership never took it upon itself to be an educational forum, instructing its members about how to tell cleaned coins from those that aren't. Was this proposed and met with resistance by the insiders who would lose business as a result of an educated customer base, was it taught and ignored by greedy collectors who thought they could get something for nothing, or was it taught and then subverted by the dealer members that relied on the inexperienced member buyers?
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Among any given group or population, there will be a bell curve indicative of any human trait you wish to study. There are crooks everywhere and in every pursuit. Cheers, RickO
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Among any given group or population, there will be a bell curve indicative of any human trait you wish to study. There are crooks everywhere and in every pursuit. Cheers, RickO >>



    ...so true. image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    If this happened in Jersey, the guy would wake up next to a horse.

    I don't think the practice of cleaning coins and them passing then off as uncirculated examples was condoned by the club, some members just skirted the fringes of ethical behavior in order to gain from the less informed.

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  • ocon4008ocon4008 Posts: 1,703
    Caveat emptor!image
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probally to the extent that some great collections will never be known to the public.

    To answer the title question.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I'll bet that this fella is one of those folks that would argue till everybody is BLUE in the Face that if you pulled a coin from a cash register drawer or received a coin as change...............that you CANNOT call it "Uncirculated". This is in total disregard for the fact that "uncirculated" is a state of preserved condition and not a descriptive term of where the coin has been.

    The subject matter of the article has nothing to do with "criminal activity" as much as it has to do with a "strict" interpretation of what constitutes "cleaning" a coin and to carry this "personal interpretation" to the extent that it has been taken indicates a more serious social problem.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a disgruntled coin club member got booted from his coin club and is now trying to exact revenge on this club.

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  • TevaTeva Posts: 830 ✭
    When I first started collecting I was afraid to buy anything
    just because of that reason I never really started to buy HQ
    rare coins untill the advent of TPG's for just that reason.
    Its buyer beware in a dog eat dog world and collectors are not immune we are targets of scamers from all over the world.
    It is no suprise to me to read that you may buy a cleaned coin
    at a club show but you would think the purists in the club would rat
    the dirty dogs out.
    Give the laziest man the toughest job and he will find the easiest way to get it done.

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