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Error Experts.... Large Head Lincoln, problem solved thanks jonathanb. Counterbrockage 192*-D mint

Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
I thought I have seen everything. What the heck is this thing?

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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    dime planchet or fake?

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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    It is not a dime planchet....same size as a regular cent. It is copper too. A 1920's dated coin. cant see the last numeral
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    BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    that's weird.

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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if it was some sort of die capping issue.

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first thought was a brockage of some sort, but that wouldn't be right, would it? I don't think so.
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    I don't know, I thought that too....the letters in erty look legit to me. The 19 and the 2 also look ok.
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    Strange???? We need Fred Weinberg to look at this. He's the foremost expert on errors, imho.image
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    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 4,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Counterbrockage. Nice example, too. 192x?
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Counterbrockage. Nice example, too. 192x? >>



    Yes it is a 192? D mint
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Jonathan B, that must be what it is.... here is what I pulled from coinfacts

    COUNTERBROCKAGE
    A counterbrockage error involves a capped die and a previously struck coin. When a capped die strikes a previously struck coin, the obverse design from that struck coin will be impressed into the cap. The result will be a design where the cap face will be an incuse brockage. When a new blank is struck by this capped die with an incuse brockage image, the obverse will have a raised and spread image from that incuse design of the cap. This brockage impression is known as a counterbrockage.
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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭
    Yep, definitely a counterbrockage. I assume it has the normal die orientation?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you sure it's not a Philly image
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very Nice Counterbrokage Error
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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,967 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Duuuuuude... is that thing available?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks Jonathan B, that must be what it is.... here is what I pulled from coinfacts

    COUNTERBROCKAGE
    A counterbrockage error involves a capped die and a previously struck coin. When a capped die strikes a previously struck coin, the obverse design from that struck coin will be impressed into the cap. The result will be a design where the cap face will be an incuse brockage. When a new blank is struck by this capped die with an incuse brockage image, the obverse will have a raised and spread image from that incuse design of the cap. This brockage impression is known as a counterbrockage. >>



    To clarify that definition:

    Coin A was struck and adhered to the reverse die to form the start of a reverse die cap. It may or may not begin to spread outwards under subsequent strikes;

    A blank planchet, not a capped die, is struck between the obverse die and the raised obverse of the previously struck reverse die cap. It becomes Coin B, a brockage error, and adheres to the obverse die to form an obverse die cap with an incused obverse design in it.

    Coin A leaves the coining chamber, either immediately or after few more strikes that spread the incused obverse design in the obverse die cap (Coin B) outwards.

    A new blank planchet is struck between the spread-out incused obverse in Coin B and the normal reverse die to form Coin C, this coin.

    TD
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Are you sure it's not a Philly image >>



    Positive!! The D is plain as day. I can try and get some better photos later tonight of the date area.
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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, that is cool!!!! image >>



    Thanks! I thought it was special too when I saw it. A really neat piece!
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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ive never seen anything like that on a lincoln. Thanks for sharing it with us!

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    Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ive never seen anything like that on a lincoln. Thanks for sharing it with us! >>



    Not a problem!! Im glad you enjoyed looking at it.
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    That is bizarre!
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A strange one indeed.... new to me. Cheers, RickO
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    toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love errors! That is awesome! How did you come across it?

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