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WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't have much experience with grading gold in the first place, but this series just seems extra tough.

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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    These are a monster to grade, I'd say XF details, cleaned.
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  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    High VF
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45ish details, suspect nograde
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Commercial 53, lightly cleaned generations ago, no Plus, no sticker. image
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Commercial 53, lightly cleaned generations ago, no Plus, no sticker. image >>



    I knew if I waited long enough I'd get a grade I like image

    You guys are harsh! Keep in mind this image is indoors under florescent lighting with a hand-held Canon powershot.

    No heavy "luster", but does this series really have that anyway?
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  • HussuloHussulo Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭
    XF details, cleaned.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    40-45-ish. Probably cleaned.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>45ish details, suspect nograde >>



    Why no grade? Looks like an original XF45 to me.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>45ish details, suspect nograde >>



    Why no grade? Looks like an original XF45 to me. >>



    You tell 'em, Perry! image

    I think it's natural and probably correct for most unslabbed XF and up gold to be somewhat suspect. If it was perfect it would be in plastic, right?

    But I don't get cleaned off of this one, at least not marketunacceptablecleaned.

    Here's me: Borderline AU and nicely struck. XF49 image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those that say "cleaned" should remember that this coin has an incused design which had all design elements below the surface of the fields and there were no raised rims. Hence, the fields had no protection from hairline/fine scratches from circulation. Also, notice the dirt trapped in the incused design elements. This has the look of a typical circulated Indian quarter and half eagle.

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  • nutmegnutmeg Posts: 345 ✭✭
    Obverse XF45 maybe better. Reverse AU53. The top of the wing looks pretty nice with a little rub. Or maybe a weak strike reverse.
    Overall it's at least XF45.
  • pakasmompakasmom Posts: 1,920 ✭
    What would an MS example of a (common date) indian half run right now? It's such a beautiful design...
  • JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭
    40, Cleaned.
    You can see no detail on the headdress.
  • oldcameoproofsguyoldcameoproofsguy Posts: 3,174 ✭
    Looks like a 45 to me. The striations don't look too severe, but it does show signs of an abrasive cleaning. Finding these coins with clean fields and with a nice original patina is hard to do, but with patience can be done. I even like finding them with a small carbon spot or two because they are usually absent in cleaned coins.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    My first thought was 'XF cleaned' too. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's a very typical condition for these coins.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45...not cleaned. Cheers, RickO
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF45. I think it will slab fine.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't like it...

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