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Anyone ever seen this type of slab, or TGP?

VeramacoorVeramacoor Posts: 41
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This is something that was in a collection that I bought. I had never seen it before and have had no luck finding anything on the internet about it. It is sealed on both ends and about 1/3 of an inch thick, like a bigger capitol plastic holder or something. The coin has hairlines and was cleaned. Anyone have any info on them?

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Never seen or heard of that one before.This may be off topic,but you have an average of 1.3 posts per year.I guess you just lurk a lot.
    Trade $'s
  • truthtellertruthteller Posts: 1,240 ✭✭
    I would resubmit it under their new secure grading program. You are sure to get an MSAA+




    TRUTH
  • VeramacoorVeramacoor Posts: 41
    I am a big time lurker, but someone posted earlier today about a PCGS Wreath Cent I sold last night on Ebay with a (buy it now) and titled it "The early bird gets the Wreath". I spotted that thread and decided to start one of my own with a question.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the printing, I'd date the holder at approximately 1980. No idea what wherefrom the professed "accreditation" was granted. Looks like an early self-slabber.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the screws holding it together, it looks like a Capitol holder. Someone could easily open it and substitute a different coin and then reassemble the holder.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,848 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Based on the screws holding it together, it looks like a Capitol holder. Someone could easily open it and substitute a different coin and then reassemble the holder. >>



    Looks like it has foil seals to prevent this scenario.

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • VeramacoorVeramacoor Posts: 41
    It does look like it would be easy to change the coin out, but it does have the seals at each end that have that DJ logo to prevent tampering sort of.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,945 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lurker or not it is a different slab. more then likely a self slabber, send it in for another grade at pcgs image best wishes
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Slab collectors may be interested in that one. Make sure the seals on the end remain unbroken.

    I've never seen it before.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have not seen that one before...interesting.

    Turn on your PM. I would like to ask you a question. Thanks.

    Lane
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • mumumumu Posts: 1,840
    Is A better or AAA
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,608 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Slab collectors may be interested in that one. Make sure the seals on the end remain unbroken.

    I've never seen it before. >>



    Agree. A low value coin like that is probably worth more in an unusual slab like this one than in a more mainstream slab.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting grading regimen....Cheers, RickO
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,174 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Slab collectors may be interested in that one. Make sure the seals on the end remain unbroken.

    I've never seen it before. >>


    Contact conder101 on the NGC board. If anyone has info or insight, it would be him.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,608 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Slab collectors may be interested in that one. Make sure the seals on the end remain unbroken.

    I've never seen it before. >>


    Contact conder101 on the NGC board. If anyone has info or insight, it would be him. >>



    Yup! He's the slab expert and he literally wrote the book on the subject.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Witout some sort of guide to that grading process, it makes no sense. The "Tone" row makes no sense at all.

    Looks like some pretty good hairlines on the obverse.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    I have not seen the slab before (those plastic screws are Capital Plastics material as already stated)

    I would not say they are a TPG, but would guess they were a telemarketing boiler room selling crap to unknowledgable "investors"


    the coin in the pic has been whizzed or harshly cleaned on the obverse left field and side of face

    I am not sure if people previously suggesting to send to PCGS were kidding or not,
    but unless some rare VAM, that would be a mistake on a $25 or so coin
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I'd say it all depends on the guy who signed it. He could be a scam artist overgrading coins and making them look legit to the newbie or he may be a real professional who picks PQ coins, grades tough and these coins are real bargains, or somewhere in between.

    --Jerry
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,948 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ..
    Many happy BST transactions
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin has been harshly cleaned -- significant hairlines on the obverse.

    *For Sale on Numismy* *For Sale on Ebay*
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is A better or AAA >>



    Depends on what's more important, an A on your report card or roadside service. image


    Well, look at that! All four basic qualities shown right on the holder with eye appeal listed last. But I don't understand the math on the eye appeal. Should have been AA since 3As + 2As + 2As + 1A is 8As. And 8 divided by 4 is 2 or AA. image Looks like more market grading to me!


    Leo

    Oh, and I wanted to add, D. Juiles. Julius? Might be able to do a web search.

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • VeramacoorVeramacoor Posts: 41
    That is a good thought, maybe I can turn up a name on the guy that signed the coin. I asked the guy who I got it from and he said that it was bought by his dad in the 80's sometime and probably paid way too much for it. It also has significant hairlines on the reverse in the fields, they just don't really show up with my picture.

    My PM's are turned on now.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I couldn't find anything either but did find an interesting article on Particularization.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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