How would this be graded? (Photo inside) & anyone want to buy it?

chris777

You see near and along the edge of the back of the card..... can you guys tell me how that will affect the grade? Note: This is a USFL Steve Young that came straight out of the usfl set box like that and the front looks fine. (Also is anyone interested in buying it).

nightcrawler

I'm goin with a 9 (sc). Mint, slightly chewed.

lbcoach20

Considered a crease. It would grade a 5.

Brick

I have one in a PSA 8 holder. I can't remember which one but I noticed it when checking for cards to try to bump. I believe someone just missed it and PSA 5 is close to being right on the mark.

1960toppsguy

I respectfully disagree with the 5 and crease, no clue what it would grade without seeing the entire card.

jeff8877

It would be considered a "wrinkle" and grade as a PSA 5.

Jeff

itzagoner

love this one, i've had a variety of results with cards just like it........

that wrinkle on the back may or may not be subjected to greater scrutiny depending on its appearance to the naked eye.....i had resisted sending in cards like this for grading for a long time, but a funny thing happened to them on the way back to my raw collection.

last year, through the various purchases of high grade cards, including some from members of this board (and i do not need to out anyone because i have no gripes about it), i observed a distinct and notable fact......that "crease" or "wrinkle" you see on the back of the card is a result of factory production and not mishandling.....not sure if this is an aspect of the overall grading theory, but i do know that i own not one, but several examples of cards with that raised area on the back which are now in PSA 7, 8 & even 9 holders.....i think it's an eye appeal thing and the given date that card winds up in the grading room.

but just to elaborate once again, it's not a crease, it's not a wrinkle.....it's a raised area.

i would consider attempting to grade any card which has a chance, the worst that can happen is you get the 5.......and try again.

digicat

I concur with itzagoner. I've owned a few 1992 Bowman cards with similar issues, and each was in a PSA 9 holder.

Sportsamerica

I say a 5.. Reasons 1) Young will be looked at closer 2) stands out with the red back

captainthreeputt

I think this would be a great test and you should send it in and scan the results. Hopefully, you have other cards to send in, so you are only out the grading fee.

swartz1

if it doesnt go all they way "through" it could be a 6...

good luck...

otwcards

The cut crease or bulge will not adversely hinder the grading of the card. It will typically keep an otherwise GEM MINT card in a MINT holder, but I have and have seen many cards with the cut crease/bulge in PSA 8 and PSA 9 holders. Those that suggest it is treated as a standard crease and state that it warrants a PSA 5 EX are off base on their assessment.

dfr52

I have a PSA 8 1984 H.Walker w/ that as well.

al032184

I think it would be a 6. Some of the 89 UD Griffey's have a very small wrinkle that occured at the factory, it is not as big as that one, and those Griffey's get 6's.

chris777

Thanks everyone. Any of you interested in buy this Steve Young USFL card?

EagleEyeKid

Can I see a pic of the front?

thenavarro

<< <i>Thanks everyone. Any of you interested in buy this Steve Young USFL card? >>



If it's a 1984 Steve Young USFL rookie card, then I am. Please send me scans to navarro@flash.net of both the front and reverse with your best price.

Thanks,

Mike

thenavarro

Anyone know what the VCP is on a 1984 USFL Steve Young in both PSA 5 and PSA 6?

Thanks,

Mike

swartz1

How much?

chris777

I believe my card would most likely get a psa 8 or 8.5 if the back isn't deducted. Worst case scenario is that psa gives me a psa 5 (even if I don't think it's a psa 5 since the factory made the bulge).

divecchia

<< <i>Anyone know what the VCP is on a 1984 USFL Steve Young in both PSA 5 and PSA 6?

Thanks,

Mike >>



Hi Mike...

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 5 - Average Price: $27.00
2/22/09 eBay $27.00


Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 6 - Average Price: $58.00
1/8/09 eBay $58.00
11/1/06 eBay $54.25


Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 6.5 - Average Price: $27.77
11/28/09 eBay $27.77

Donato

otwcards

<< <i>I believe my card would most likely get a psa 8 or 8.5 if the back isn't deducted. Worst case scenario is that psa gives me a psa 5 (even if I don't think it's a psa 5 since the factory made the bulge). >>



How about a scan of the card?

chris777

I'll put a photo. I don't have a scanner, but I'll put a huge digital photo up. If anyone saw my jordan rookie fleer i posted before, my cam takes pretty nice pics.

swartz1

Do you mean the PSA 5.5 you showed...

BPorter26

<< <i>Anyone know what the VCP is on a 1984 USFL Steve Young in both PSA 5 and PSA 6? >>




PSA 5 $27

PSA 6 $58

chris777

<< <i>Do you mean the PSA 5.5 you showed... >>

Yes. Pretty nice photo for a digital cam. That 5.5 is nicer than psa 7 Jordans. I'm thinking of selling that one.

swartz1

I dont think you ever showed the entire card...can you throw up a pic?

thanks

otwcards

In case no one has figured it out, this guy is the king of partial information... Sounds like someone ready for politics.

chris777

<< <i>I dont think you ever showed the entire card...can you throw up a pic?

thanks >>


I don't know where the pic is, I'd have to look for it. If you can search on this board for my posts about getting a 5.5 grade, it should be on here.

swartz1

<< <i>In case no one has figured it out, this guy is the king of partial information... Sounds like someone ready for politics. >>



step ahead of ya...

thenavarro

Donato and Bobby,

Thanks for the VCP help!

Mike

chris777

<< <i>In case no one has figured it out, this guy is the king of partial information... Sounds like someone ready for politics. >>

I'm still learning. I'll try not to offer cards on here unless I can put up a full photo of it first.

swartz1

so you will post a picture to this thread...

pic

chris777

<< <i>so you will post a picture to this thread...

pic >>


You found the Jordan!!! That's great! I tried to look for it, but I couldn't find it! Thanks, I appreciate it!!! That 5.5 Jordan is better looking than all the psa 7 Jordans I've seen. I need to find the steve young and take pics of it.

otwcards

<< <i>

<< <i>so you will post a picture to this thread...

pic >>


You found the Jordan!!! That's great! I tried to look for it, but I couldn't find it! Thanks, I appreciate it!!! That 5.5 Jordan is better looking than all the psa 7 Jordans I've seen. I need to find the steve young and take pics of it. >>



BRILLIANT!

Offering a card for sale but having no idea where it is. And you expect us to take you seriously?

bluemarlin

Question why hide the flip on the Jordan?

chris777

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>so you will post a picture to this thread...

pic >>


You found the Jordan!!! That's great! I tried to look for it, but I couldn't find it! Thanks, I appreciate it!!! That 5.5 Jordan is better looking than all the psa 7 Jordans I've seen. I need to find the steve young and take pics of it. >>



BRILLIANT!

Offering a card for sale but having no idea where it is. And you expect us to take you seriously? >>


I know where it is, I just got to get it. I just recently lost my bird magic rookie card, so I make sure to put everything in my closet now. I just realized not to offer anything until I post photos first. I'm still learning.

nightcrawler

<< <i>I'll try not to offer cards on here unless I can put up a full photo of it first. >>



Here's the forum for selling... Buy, sell and trade - Sports

eagles33

centering is a big problem with this card psa seems to grade this one mugh harder than the rest of the set. i subbed a few 84 usfl cards and got a 9 on the kelly and walker and only an 8 on the young. The corners, edges and surface were near perfect.. but the centering was slightly off... I also got a 9 oc on the reggie white and i thought the card was closer to 6. the centering was terrible, there were 2 ugly print dots on the white border on the front.. and there was a similar wrinkle on the back. prob one of the ugliest cards in a 9 holder.