1985 ENGELHARD 1 OUNCE SILVER PROOF PROSPECTOR ROUND......

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Coll3ctor
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I just received one in a lot of silver today. Have never seen these in proof. Are these scarce image

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  • gecko109
    gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭
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    I doubt there are 2 distinct varieties of this round. In other words, its very unlikely that Engelhard went through the trouble to create highly polished dies to make a bullion round. More likely is that your round features PL charateristics as it may have come off fresh dies.
  • Coll3ctor
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    << <i>I doubt there are 2 distinct varieties of this round. In other words, its very unlikely that Engelhard went through the trouble to create highly polished dies to make a bullion round. More likely is that your round features PL charateristics as it may have come off fresh dies. >>





    With respect, this is definitely a Engelhard Prospector proof silver round.


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  • SilverBaron
    SilverBaron Posts: 767 ✭
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    ********* YES .... That IS a Proof ******


    Welllllll ........

    Yes .... Engelhard did make both "Mint" and Proof 1985 Prospectors ..... in all 4 sizes.

    On the 1oz ..... Besides the surface difference ( that can mimic a Mint/PL ) .... The " I " in AMERICAN

    has a different lower right serif and the water ripples below the miner& pan are very different.

    As for rarity .........

    The Mint version is the most common of all the propectors. .... Mintage : Unknown ( to me ).

    The Proof version ......... I do see a few of them a year ....... Mintage : Unkown ( to me ).

    The problem with the Proof issues is that without Engelhard documintation,

    no one believes that they are proofs .... just Proof Likes ( PL ).


    Maybe some day.........


    Silver Baron
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  • keepdachange
    keepdachange Posts: 1,374
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    That sure looks like a proof, never saw one before. Pretty image
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  • gecko109
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    Thats certainly very PL...much nicer than the average prospector round. However, just because a round (or even a coin) features watery fields and frosted devices doesnt make it a technical proof. I have owned dozens of gold and silver pandas that looked the same, yet were simply business strikes. The definition of a "proof" doesnt rely on looks, but rather is a description of method of manufacture. This round would have to have been made on specially prepared dies with the intent of distinguishing it from the millions of other "business strike" rounds they made that year. Until you have some sort of evidence that this did in fact occur, your round is simply an outstanding example of a very PL emission.



    Edited to add: And that "evidence" has just been provided by Silver Baron! image
  • BigE
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    I never noticed that the miners foot is actually underwater----------BigE
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  • FistFullOfDollars
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    looks like a proof to me... stupid lizard


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  • meluaufeet
    meluaufeet Posts: 768 ✭✭✭
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    Maybe the seller might have some info...

    ebay auction

    btw: Thats a cool round.
  • gsa1fan
    gsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
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    That is cool! Factory capsule I guess? What size that one 1oz?
    Avid collector of GSA's.
  • Coll3ctor
    Coll3ctor Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>That is cool! Factory capsule I guess? What size that one 1oz? >>




    Yup, 1 ounce. Factory capsule, I don't know but it's scratched to chit image
  • Weiss
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    I'd swear I remember seeing something about proof prospectors in the past. That certainly looks legit.
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  • greatnortherncoin
    greatnortherncoin Posts: 412
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    great looking ! looks proof i want some
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  • Nuts4Coins
    Nuts4Coins Posts: 12 ✭
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    They definitely made proof rounds in 1985 I hope no one is disputing that

  • Nuts4Coins
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    I can't see any scratches in the pic

  • mbogoman
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    Yes, it is definitely a proof. In 1985, Engelhard made somewhere less than 500 of these. Go to this page on the "All Engelhard" website and scroll down to 1985. It's all there for anyone who can read English...

    https://allengelhard.com/definitive-pages/engelhard-rounds/

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  • Coll3ctor
    Coll3ctor Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭
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    @mbogoman said:
    Yes, it is definitely a proof. In 1985, Engelhard made somewhere less than 500 of these. Go to this page on the "All Engelhard" website and scroll down to 1985. It's all there for anyone who can read English...

    https://allengelhard.com/definitive-pages/engelhard-rounds/

    I wonder what I ever did with this round... wish I would have kept it now.

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