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Congrats to Jamie Moyer
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Oldest pitcher to throw a complete game shutout. Two singles and he only faced 1 over the minimum-28 batters. "WOW"
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Amazing, especially at 47 years old, or should I say "years young" LOL
<< <i>He is amazing - there are some games he looks like he's a softball pitcher out there, his pitches look so easy to hit watching on TV, yet he gets 'em out. >>
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In all seriousness, Jamie Moyer is the nicest man to play Major League Baseball
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<< <i>Not bad for a 60 year old. >>
he turned 61 this year
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Stranger things have happened. He might tie Early Winn and Lefty Grove.
After being bumped out of the Phillies' starting rotation last year when Pedro Martinez was brought in, I'm afraid that Jamie is always teetering on the edge of being in the starting five rotation. His last start obviously solidified his starting position, and was absolutely remarkable for a 47-1/2 year old man:
Moyer's statline before his celebrated shutout: 3-2, 5.70 ERA
Moyer's statline after his celebrated shutout: 4-2, 4.38 ERA
Keep hanging in there, Jamie. Julio Franco almost made it to age 50. Maybe you can?
Jamie began his MLB career in 1986 for the Cubs. Just consider how old you were then. Remarkable.
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Realistically, he can catch Mike Mussina with 270 wins by the end of this year.
He has been a dependable and reliable for his entire career and that is something to fondly look back on.
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That performance lowered his ERA for the season to below 4.00 and gave him a winning record: 6-5, 3.98 ERA...
...and Jamie is now closer to age 48 than 47. Just remarkable!
Jack Quinn (103 wins) and Phil Niekro (121 wins) are the only other pitchers to do it.
Steve
1. Jamie Moyer (47) 264
2. Andy Pettitte (38) 236
3. Tim Wakefield (43) 190
4. Livan Hernandez (35) 160
5. Roy Halladay (33) 156
6. Kevin Millwood (35) 155
7. Tim Hudson (34) 154
8. Derek Lowe (37) 149
9. Javier Vazquez (34) 147
10. CC Sabathia (29) 141
11. Roy Oswalt (32) 140
12. Barry Zito (32) 139
13. Mark Buehrle (31) 138
14. Jeff Suppan (35) 135
15. Freddy Garcia (35) 126
Johan Santana (31) 126
Looking at the list, Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia and Johan Santana appear to have a shot at 300 wins, if they can pitch to about 40-41 years of age and they stay on competitive teams.
Steve
<< <i>Yeah, congrats. And he still has time to make it for the early bird special for dinner.
That's a fact!
I think the game Saturday night lasted 2 hours and 2 minutes
The Phillies announcers were commenting it, and comparing it to back in the 1970s when Jim Kaat and Randy Jones were pitching. They'd routinely finish games off in under 2 hours
Fans would be home by 9:30 pm after a 7:00 pm game
Steve
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Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Though to be fair, his fastball isn't much faster than a knuckleball.
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Moyer sharp, beats Yanks for 265th career win
NEW YORK (AP) -- Age is irrelevant for Jamie Moyer . He's focused on winning.
"I don't think that I'm old. So I don't believe it,'' the 47-year-old Moyer said. "Regardless of what people think or say I still feel like I can go out and compete, and that's my ultimate job."
Boy, did he compete Wednesday night, tossing eight sharp innings to become the oldest pitcher to beat the Yankees.
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The "300-wins?" question with Moyer has been once that has been summarily dismissed with a quick "no" in recent seasons. I think that answer to that question is still a resounding "no".
Nonetheless, it's interesting to follow just how long he can ably pitch at a Major League level. Personally, as a Phillies fan, I hope it's until the same age as the number on the back of his jersey...50.
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Moyer's last start a few days ago was remarkable on a lot of levels. One is in comparing him with two Phillies Hall Of Fame Pitchers.
In that game, when he served up a Jorge Posada homer, it was the 504th surrendered in his career. That puts him one behind the all-time Major League leader, Robin Roberts with 505 HRs surrendered. Moyer most likely will end his career with the ingnominous distinction as giving up more homers than any pitcher in MLB history
Moyer's start last week came exactly 24 years after his MLB debut, when he beat Steve Carlton.
When I read online columns about Moyer, I increasingly see posters stating that Jamie should be put into the Hall Of Fame. Despite the fact that I am a lifelong Phillies fan and that Jamie Moyer is my favorite MLB player, he does not belong in the Hall Of Fame. Of course, this is just my opinion. Fans get caught up in the heat of the moment rather than considering history.
It's nice to enjoy the rarity that we have - a 47.6-year-old man pitching capably in the Majors for over 24 years! This is fun!
It's a great story but he is NOT going to the HOF unless he pitches until he is about 60 and wins 350 games. I can't believe anybody would seriously suggest him for the HOF.
some of members of the Hall today have done. If he pitched his career with the Yankees he would be in. Sad
<< <i>Moyer's start last week came exactly 24 years after his MLB debut, when he beat Steve Carlton. >>
Actually, he beat the fetid remains of what was once Steve Carlton. Carlton's career jumped the shark when he hit 40, and after that he was suddenly a fairly terrible pitcher. It was sad to see Lefty carry on so long after he clearly no longer had it.
<< <i>Here's the current list of career win leaders among active pitchers:
1. Jamie Moyer (47) 264
2. Andy Pettitte (38) 236
3. Tim Wakefield (43) 190
4. Livan Hernandez (35) 160
5. Roy Halladay (33) 156
6. Kevin Millwood (35) 155
7. Tim Hudson (34) 154
8. Derek Lowe (37) 149
9. Javier Vazquez (34) 147
10. CC Sabathia (29) 141
11. Roy Oswalt (32) 140
12. Barry Zito (32) 139
13. Mark Buehrle (31) 138
14. Jeff Suppan (35) 135
15. Freddy Garcia (35) 126
Johan Santana (31) 126
Looking at the list, Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia and Johan Santana appear to have a shot at 300 wins, if they can pitch to about 40-41 years of age and they stay on competitive teams.
Steve >>
I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a guy on that list that has a shot.
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1. Jamie Moyer (47) 264
2. Andy Pettitte (38) 236
3. Tim Wakefield (43) 190
4. Livan Hernandez (35) 160
5. Roy Halladay (33) 156
6. Kevin Millwood (35) 155
7. Tim Hudson (34) 154
8. Derek Lowe (37) 149
9. Javier Vazquez (34) 147
10. CC Sabathia (29) 141
11. Roy Oswalt (32) 140
12. Barry Zito (32) 139
13. Mark Buehrle (31) 138
14. Jeff Suppan (35) 135
15. Freddy Garcia (35) 126
Johan Santana (31) 126
Looking at the list, Roy Halladay, CC Sabathia and Johan Santana appear to have a shot at 300 wins, if they can pitch to about 40-41 years of age and they stay on competitive teams.
Steve >>
I could be wrong, but I don't think there is a guy on that list that has a shot.
I would think the following have a "shot" at 300:
10. CC Sabathia (29) 141
11. Roy Oswalt (32) 140
12. Barry Zito (32) 139
13. Mark Buehrle (31) 138
Johan Santana (31) 126
Sabathia is only 29 so 12 years averaging 13 wins and he's there. That seems very doable to me.
Beyond that if anybody does like Moyer, and pitch deep into their 40's, then there are a whole host of people that have a shot. If you had produced this list 10 years ago you wouldn't think Moyer would get 200 let alone 300. Obviously Moyer won't actually get to 300 but to get 100 wins in his 40's shows me that a lot of people have a shot at 300.
The Hall of Fame?
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<< <i>2 hitter tonight, are we ready to vote this guy in the hall yet?
The Hall of Fame?
Moyer does now have the same number of wins (266) as Bob Feller and Eppa Rixey both finished with (35th on the career list).
Steve
<< <i>He should be in the Hall of Fame for throwing softballs to MLB batters and getting away with it. LOL >>
Very true!
Steve
The Hall of Fame? >>
Moyer does now have the same number of wins (266) as Bob Feller and Eppa Rixey both finished with (35th on the career list).
Steve
He still needs 21 wins to tie Blyleven and even if he does (which is unlikely), he's not nearly as good as Bert..
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<< <i> 2 hitter tonight, are we ready to vote this guy in the hall yet?
The Hall of Fame? >>
Moyer does now have the same number of wins (266) as Bob Feller and Eppa Rixey both finished with (35th on the career list).
Steve
He still needs 21 wins to tie Blyleven and even if he does (which is unlikely), he's not nearly as good as Bert.. >>
Very true. There are a couple more pitchers at that level (Tommy John and Jim Kaat) who I would put above Moyer.
Steve
Congrats to Moyer on another win. I was rooting for him as I watched the SportsCenter highlights this morning.
What is going to happen with Biggio? He was never a great player. Did I say never a great player. Should not be in the HOF and I like him too.
To me the HOF voting would be easy----Was the players' numbers in the end representative of a really outstanding player for 10 + yearsin the career? and here is the most important question////// Was that same player one of the best in all of baseball for a minimum of like 5-8 years? If the answer is not yes to both...NO DICE.
As for the steroid guys- none will get in.
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