LT (The HOF linebacker from NY)
gecko109
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Wowza.....he has had some problems, but this is very serious stuff!
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Steve
Oh, and thank you to Connecticoin for pointing out that this thread is about Lawrence Taylor.....NOT LaDainian Tomlinson
<< <i>I have a 15 year old daughter......and just the thought of it....makes me want to put a bullet thru his head >>
IF hes guilty.
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<< <i>I have a 15 year old daughter......and just the thought of it....makes me want to put a bullet thru his head >>
IF hes guilty. >>
You are correct. It looks bad, but he does get his day in Court.
Just to play devil's advocate, since many not only condemn without the facts or seem to confuse the facts, here are some thoughts.
1. L.T., (probably after a night of drinking and most likely fairly inebriated), calls up and orders a prostitute. A girl is brought to his room, and he has sex and pays her the money. I doubt he asked for photo ID to see how old she was--and if he was drunk, he probably could not tell anyway. I have seen plenty of girls throughout the years, and there are many, many that you would swear were 20-21 who turn out to be teenagers. There have been plenty of threads on this very message board in years past (before the moderators started banning them), posting pictures of attractive tennis, golf, olympic, etc. females and there are plenty of lewd and suggestive comments made. Guess what--plenty of those females were teenagers--so let's not condemn L.T. as being a "pedeophile" unless it turns out that he specifically asked for an underage sexual partner and/or committed the act knowing her true age.
That may turn out to be the case here--but I have seen no reports saying that as of yet.
2. The accusation of someone beating the girl (according to the story I read) is against the man named Davis, who brought the girl to the hotel, and apparently was acting as pimp (against her will). He is a thug and a monster for sure. It may be revealed in the future or elsewhere--but I have not yet seen any reports saying L.T. beat the girl.
So L.T. for sure has many problems, and is not a good guy role model--but to read others comments saying they want to commit murder by putting a bullet to his head, or comparing him to a probable multi-murderer (O.J. Simpson)--is, at this stage, a huge over reaction in my opinion.
The only reports I have seen, so far, say L.T. ordered a call girl, one arrived at his hotel, he had sex and paid for the service, and then it turned out the girl was underage and a victim/hostage of the pimp named Davis. If the girl had been 18 or 19 (instead of 16)--would people still be thinking he should be shot in the head or comparing him to O.J.?
If he did know she was only 16--and/or if he asked for someone that young--then I am for him being locked up for a long time. But I will wait for that fact to be reported before thinking about the proper punishment.
Not to cast aspersions on either LT or the girl - but even in a best-case scenario, ordering a $300 call girl when you are a famous celebrity with a checkered past , or running away at 15 and staying with a pimp - either way you are asking for trouble.
LT is of the age where he should know better. The girls is too young to be smart, no matter what her upbringing was - she is a victim. The pimp, who turned out a 15 year old, and beat her, goes to hell regardless.
If LT did rape her, I hope he'll burn too. Slowly.
Is it too soon for a Dez Bryant family joke here?
Bosox1976
You are of course, correct; we must wait for the evidence to be heard and the truth to be told before coming to any conclusions. Perhaps I did overreact by comparing Taylor to Simpson, but in my defense, I did say "If this is true.....".
If these allegations are not true, then Taylor's not so bad. If they are true though, I stand by my previous comment.
Steve
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<< <i>Wow, that sucks.
Just to play devil's advocate, since many not only condemn without the facts or seem to confuse the facts, here are some thoughts.
1. L.T., (probably after a night of drinking and most likely fairly inebriated), calls up and orders a prostitute. A girl is brought to his room, and he has sex and pays her the money. I doubt he asked for photo ID to see how old she was--and if he was drunk, he probably could not tell anyway. I have seen plenty of girls throughout the years, and there are many, many that you would swear were 20-21 who turn out to be teenagers. There have been plenty of threads on this very message board in years past (before the moderators started banning them), posting pictures of attractive tennis, golf, olympic, etc. females and there are plenty of lewd and suggestive comments made. Guess what--plenty of those females were teenagers--so let's not condemn L.T. as being a "pedeophile" unless it turns out that he specifically asked for an underage sexual partner and/or committed the act knowing her true age.
That may turn out to be the case here--but I have seen no reports saying that as of yet.
2. The accusation of someone beating the girl (according to the story I read) is against the man named Davis, who brought the girl to the hotel, and apparently was acting as pimp (against her will). He is a thug and a monster for sure. It may be revealed in the future or elsewhere--but I have not yet seen any reports saying L.T. beat the girl.
So L.T. for sure has many problems, and is not a good guy role model--but to read others comments saying they want to commit murder by putting a bullet to his head, or comparing him to a probable multi-murderer (O.J. Simpson)--is, at this stage, a huge over reaction in my opinion.
The only reports I have seen, so far, say L.T. ordered a call girl, one arrived at his hotel, he had sex and paid for the service, and then it turned out the girl was underage and a victim/hostage of the pimp named Davis. If the girl had been 18 or 19 (instead of 16)--would people still be thinking he should be shot in the head or comparing him to O.J.?
If he did know she was only 16--and/or if he asked for someone that young--then I am for him being locked up for a long time. But I will wait for that fact to be reported before thinking about the proper punishment. >>
DAMN thats a good post!
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<< <i>Just to clairify, this is Lawrence (Cokehead) Taylor, not Ladian Tomilson. >>
That should have been the thread title! >>
Yes, it has nothing to do with still being bitter about Super Bowl 42