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New market for "reverse doctors" to make coins temporarily look worse...

BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
With all this talk of "wow, how neat and rare would a coin with both a PLUS and a GOLD BEAN be"

it occurs to me that if there were a way to make, say, a low end MS66 look like a 64+ for the submission, and then have it "turn better" in some way (a haze that fades, delayed AT that gradually mellows the surfaces, or some such) and then later submit it to CAC (who, it says in another thread, disregards the plus and just compares the coin against 64 standards) it might get the gold bean as a lock 65 in a 64 holder.

would this work? of course, the trick to make the coin temorarily worse would be the hardest part, but one could also substitute "tighter grading period" or use set-up coins to steer your target coin to the lower grade.

Would a plus and a gold bean on the same holder be worth a novelty premium that exceeds the downgrade from plain ole "MS66" to "64+ CAC Gold?

Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    please, find something else to wile away the hours with. this is just, well, stupid.
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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was going to be nice and just say you have waaay too much time on your hands, keets is more direct. image
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was going to be nice and just say you have waaay too much time on your hands, keets is more direct. image >>





    Now Baley knows what it feels like to be Longacre and receive a tongue-lashing from Keets. image
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh, good grief!!!! please check your PM files.

    as for that acre guy, please accept my apology for my directness, it sometimes gets the best of me.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a complicated, time-consuming, expensive way to make $290 into $75. I am willing to do you a favor. Just send me $290, and I will send you back $75 and spare you all of the trips to Home Depot, the post office, etc. image
  • TCCUGATCCUGA Posts: 70 ✭✭
    Wouldn't an average, or even low end MS66 still be worth way more than an MS64 with a plus, star, a green bean, a gold bean, rainbow bean, you name it? If I remember in school, an A or A- was still better than a C+++.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a complicated, time-consuming, expensive way to make $290 into $75. I am willing to do you a favor. Just send me $290, and I will send you back $75 and spare you all of the trips to Home Depot, the post office, etc.

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    i don't know who hands out the POTD awards but that should get consideration. most excellent!!image
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>please, find something else to wile away the hours with. this is just, well, stupid. >>


    image I like that response!
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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭


    << <i>please, find something else to wile away the hours with. this is just, well, stupid. >>



    Really, it is more like "STUPID - SECURED PLUS + !! imageimage (get it, it is at the high end of stupid range) image
  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    The only time I could see getting a coin downgraded is to take a coin from MS61 or 62 down to AU58 +. The coin may still be worth more in a 61 or 62 holder, but allot of collectors get jazzed about a AU58 and wont look at coins in the low MS grades.
  • BubbleheadBubblehead Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a complicated, time-consuming, expensive way to make $290 into $75. I am willing to do you a favor. Just send me $290, and I will send you back $75 and spare you all of the trips to Home Depot, the post office, etc. image >>





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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, I'm going those places anyway, to supply the market with rock-tumbled novelty PO-1's image

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keets, I applaud you.... nothing like a simple, direct statement. Beats the hell out of all the fol de rol often lathered on in other posts. Cheers, RickO
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,897 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wouldn't an average, or even low end MS66 still be worth way more than an MS64 with a plus, star, a green bean, a gold bean, rainbow bean, you name it? If I remember in school, an A or A- was still better than a C+++. >>



    You are being logical which makes your post off-topic for this thread.

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