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Nazi gold bar on ebay

derrybderryb Posts: 36,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I have no affiliation with the listing, just find it kinda cool:

For the collector who has to have everything

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting but I wonder if it's even real.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    From 1939? Almost certainly confiscated (Poland, etc) during the war. Sickening, sorry.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,128 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting but I wonder if it's even real. >>



    I doubt it. I don't think the Third Reich ever used the backwards swastika. Looks hand made.

    MOO

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,128 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have no affiliation with the listing, just find it kinda cool:

    For the collector who has to have everything >>



    If it were real, which I doubt, it would be historic.

    Cool? Never.

    MOO

    TD
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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I also doubt that is is real. The swastika makes me think bogus... but have to admit I have never seen one in person, so who knows.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,128 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Interesting but I wonder if it's even real. >>



    I doubt it. I don't think the Third Reich ever used the backwards swastika. Looks hand made.

    MOO

    TD >>



    Edited to add: Oops...it looks like the backwards swastika is normal.
    However, I still think it looks home-made.
    TD
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Why would they put a date on the bar? That doesn't make sense. It would be more likely that 1939 is a serial number. But on the reverse, they use periods for decimal points, whereas Germans and most Europeans use commas. I call fake.

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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    poorly made fake. and in bad taste, too.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Interesting but I wonder if it's even real. >>



    I doubt it. I don't think the Third Reich ever used the backwards swastika. Looks hand made.

    MOO

    TD >>



    The nazi's used the clockwise swastika so the swastika on the bar is correct.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't feel real to me.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Way cool if real; a piece of history. Tainted, sure it is, but aren't most blood diamonds and non-US gold?

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>Why would they put a date on the bar? That doesn't make sense. It would be more likely that 1939 is a serial number. But on the reverse, they use periods for decimal points, whereas Germans and most Europeans use commas. I call fake.

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    The "date" is whats most troublesome in my opinion also. You just dont see very many dated bullion bars, and it feels like whoever made this bar was trying just a tad too hard to add provenence with such a large, conspicuous placement of the date.
  • brokeerbrokeer Posts: 69
    Not to mention does the $50 shipping for 1.5 ozs bother anyone?image
  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>Not to mention does the $50 shipping for 1.5 ozs bother anyone?image >>




    Whens the last time you shipped a $10,000 item fully insured via USPS express mail? Guess how much it costs.image
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,795 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not to mention does the $50 shipping for 1.5 ozs bother anyone?image >>




    Whens the last time you shipped a $10,000 item fully insured via USPS express mail? Guess how much it costs.image >>



    5,000 insurance limit with express, have to go registered, would cost 30-40 bucks maybe?

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Not to mention does the $50 shipping for 1.5 ozs bother anyone?image >>




    Whens the last time you shipped a $10,000 item fully insured via USPS express mail? Guess how much it costs.image >>



    5,000 insurance limit with express, have to go registered, would cost 30-40 bucks maybe? >>




    $5,000 IS the max allowed, you are correct. I once sent $7,000 worth of gold coins to PCGS using this service. Total was around $50. Seller's shipping fee is right on the money....although his asking price might be a bit optimistic!
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yuck

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  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    check out his other listings ...he claims one of the other bars actaully belonged to Adolf Hitler himself hmmm...image
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  • NumbersUsacomNumbersUsacom Posts: 1,457 ✭
    Hey Calleocho, is that a Liberian dancing palm tree. Looks like the one on the 1847 liberian cent.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>check out his other listings ...he claims one of the other bars actaully belonged to Adolf Hitler himself hmmm...image >>



    Yup. Three bars produced over five years and they all have the same inspector's mark. One heck of a coincidence or maybe the Nazi Germany only had this one inspector.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>check out his other listings ...he claims one of the other bars actaully belonged to Adolf Hitler himself hmmm...image >>



    Yup. Three bars produced over five years and they all have the same inspector's mark. One heck of a coincidence or maybe the Nazi Germany only had this one inspector.image >>


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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    2790 gold mark equal to 1 kilogram of pure gold (1 Mark = 358mg).

    Auction bar claimed 45.37g = 126.58 RM

    How long would an official have lived if they got the party emblem backwards?
  • rpwrpw Posts: 235 ✭✭
    There is so much fake Nazi gold out there it's often overlooked that there is little genuine and most of that was recast.
    The only known real ones look like:
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But on the reverse, they use periods for decimal points, whereas Germans and most Europeans use commas. I call fake. >>



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    And the Eagle looks are wrong
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    There is an evil air about such objects ,that would chill my soul
    to even approach such an object of depravity and disgust.
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭


    << <i>There is so much fake Nazi gold out there it's often overlooked that there is little genuine and most of that was recast.
    The only known real ones look like:
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    Very interesting! Degussa bars.

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  • NitroCruiserNitroCruiser Posts: 654
    Would the Third Reich even make such a small bar? It wasn't like gold circulated back then in Germany. Has the US ever made such a small bar? The pour seems quite ugly as well. I agree with everyone that stated the swastika being backward. I believe this is just someone trying to play off on the potential premiums WWII/Nazi memorabilia holds. I'm sure most all recovered Nazi gold was probably reprocessed as soon as was feasible, for various reasons.
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