It is a well orchestrated conspiracy to keep the collector down. And there have been secret, back alley dealer meetings in which it was determined that not having pictures greatly increases sales because the torture of not knowing what something looks like drives many people to order blindly. So yes, it is a marketing technique as well. You hit the nail on the head with your suppositions.
i know a dealer on the bay who post pics, some you can size up and others do not. i do not buy from they dealer after getting burnt. his loss and dealer wonders why i do not buy from them.
I'm sure it depends on the dealler. I've asked several dealers that very same question. I have received several answers. The common ones are here:
"Just haven't gotten to it yet. If you are interested I'll locate the coin and email you some snap shots."
"Our web guy only comes in once a week, the photo will be up next week."
"I don't do my own photos, and my photographer hasn't gotten to the coin yet." (or I haven't sent it to the photographer, or the photographer costs money and this is a low dollar coin so there is no margin for photographs)
<< <i>for some coins but not for others? Are they trying to hide something or is it a selling/marketing technique? >>
1. Get yourself a website and post a listing and pictures of all the coins in your collection. 2. Buy new coins for your collection as fast as the typical dealer adds coins to his inventory. 3. Update the website with a listing of your new purchases. 4. Post pictures of your new purchases.
5. Pictures of all your coins aren't posted yet? Are you trying to hide something?
<< <i>for some coins but not for others? Are they trying to hide something or is it a selling/marketing technique? >>
1. Get yourself a website and post a listing and pictures of all the coins in your collection. 2. Buy new coins for your collection as fast as the typical dealer adds coins to his inventory. 3. Update the website with a listing of your new purchases. 4. Post pictures of your new purchases.
5. Pictures of all your coins aren't posted yet? Are you trying to hide something? >>
And dont forget the almighty, important #6...
6. Occasionally try to sell a coin that you do not physically own.
mrpotatoheadd, I should have been more precise. I am asking about some coins that remain without images even while there is significant turnover of the inventory over a long period of time (months). During this time period, new coins will come online and are sold but some still persist without images. I am not trying to belittle the difficult job that dealer have of buying, marketing and selling their coins.
<< <i>mrpotatoheadd, I should have been more precise. I am asking about some coins that remain without images even while there is significant turnover of the inventory over a long period of time (months). During this time period, new coins will come online and are sold but some still persist without images. I am not trying to belittle the difficult job that dealer have of buying, marketing and selling their coins.
Thanks >>
If a dealer has a coin listed for months with no image, I would conclude that either he thinks it is not of sufficient value to bother with an image, or, in the case of a more expensive item, that the dealer doesn't actually own the coin or have it in his physical possession to photograph (as Gecko109 said).
<< <i>I am not trying to belittle the difficult job that dealer have of buying, marketing and selling their coins. >>
No offense intended- it was more of a joke. Sorry.
Sometimes, it seems there are no end to the threads here criticizing how people run their businesses, as though they are itentionally trying to piss customers off. As a general rule, that's just not true. I've always tried to go with the idea that if I don't understand why somebody does something, it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't know what they're doing. Oddly enough, lots of business people do know what's in their own best interest, and they act accordingly.
Ummm...because it's hard to hold a camera when your hands are full of greasy burgers and a beer?
(some coins are harder to image than others, some dealers are on the road a lot so they don't get to it much (they want to have a life too), some dealers don't like their own images and figure that it would hurt the sale of the coin since it is "better in hand", etc etc etc)
<< <i>It takes some time to take and post pictures. Could be lack of time, or laziness, especially if the item is not a "big ticket". >>
My thoughts exactly...
I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector. Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
There are only a couple of dealers in the world I will buy a coin from sight unseen.
Example: I will not even go onto a car dealers lot that doesn't post the prices in their ads. Some will post monthly payments though. Kind of like the old Cheech and Chong thing about the "54 Chevy man, $50 down and $50 a week for 50 years man.
Ron
Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
After several mob attacks and lynchings, there were fewer left.
Those posting currently are either newbies unaware of the dangers or hard core survivors.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
I'm not a dealer, but sometimes find myself not posting photos on the coins that I've got for sale here on the BST. I just don't have enough time to photograph/edit every coin that I turn out of my collection, especially when a lot of the coins are lower cost pieces. It might be different for a dealer, as you can keep items on your website for quite some time, but I've found that photographing everything for the BST before anyone expresses interest is many times a futile endeavor. I do however photograph any coin if requested, try to describe what I'm selling to the best of my ability, and offer a refund. I realize that this turns off some prospective customers.
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"Just haven't gotten to it yet. If you are interested I'll locate the coin and email you some snap shots."
"Our web guy only comes in once a week, the photo will be up next week."
"I don't do my own photos, and my photographer hasn't gotten to the coin yet." (or I haven't sent it to the photographer, or the photographer costs money and this is a low dollar coin so there is no
margin for photographs)
<< <i>for some coins but not for others? Are they trying to hide something or is it a selling/marketing technique? >>
1. Get yourself a website and post a listing and pictures of all the coins in your collection.
2. Buy new coins for your collection as fast as the typical dealer adds coins to his inventory.
3. Update the website with a listing of your new purchases.
4. Post pictures of your new purchases.
5. Pictures of all your coins aren't posted yet? Are you trying to hide something?
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<< <i>for some coins but not for others? Are they trying to hide something or is it a selling/marketing technique? >>
1. Get yourself a website and post a listing and pictures of all the coins in your collection.
2. Buy new coins for your collection as fast as the typical dealer adds coins to his inventory.
3. Update the website with a listing of your new purchases.
4. Post pictures of your new purchases.
5. Pictures of all your coins aren't posted yet? Are you trying to hide something?
And dont forget the almighty, important #6...
6. Occasionally try to sell a coin that you do not physically own.
Thanks
<< <i>mrpotatoheadd, I should have been more precise. I am asking about some coins that remain without images even while there is significant turnover of the inventory over a long period of time (months). During this time period, new coins will come online and are sold but some still persist without images. I am not trying to belittle the difficult job that dealer have of buying, marketing and selling their coins.
Thanks >>
If a dealer has a coin listed for months with no image, I would conclude that either he thinks it is not of sufficient value to bother with an image, or, in the case of a more expensive item, that the dealer doesn't actually own the coin or have it in his physical possession to photograph (as Gecko109 said).
<< <i>I am not trying to belittle the difficult job that dealer have of buying, marketing and selling their coins. >>
No offense intended- it was more of a joke. Sorry.
Sometimes, it seems there are no end to the threads here criticizing how people run their businesses, as though they are itentionally trying to piss customers off. As a general rule, that's just not true. I've always tried to go with the idea that if I don't understand why somebody does something, it doesn't necessarily mean that they don't know what they're doing. Oddly enough, lots of business people do know what's in their own best interest, and they act accordingly.
(some coins are harder to image than others, some dealers are on the road a lot so they don't get to it much (they want to have a life too), some dealers don't like their own images and figure that it would hurt the sale of the coin since it is "better in hand", etc etc etc)
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>It takes some time to take and post pictures. Could be lack of time, or laziness, especially if the item is not a "big ticket". >>
My thoughts exactly...
Recipient of the coveted "You Suck" award, April 2009 for cherrypicking a 1833 CBHD LM-5, and April 2022 for a 1835 LM-12, and again in Aug 2012 for picking off a 1952 FS-902.
There are only a couple of dealers in the world I will buy a coin from sight unseen.
Example: I will not even go onto a car dealers lot that doesn't post the prices in their ads. Some will post monthly payments though. Kind of like the old Cheech and Chong thing about the "54 Chevy man, $50 down and $50 a week for 50 years man.
Ron
After several mob attacks and lynchings, there were fewer left.
Those posting currently are either newbies unaware of the dangers or hard core survivors.