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"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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roadrunner
and 100 times as much is sold this way than is actually in existence?
so if just 1% of these 'owners' say. hey I want to store it myself - give it too me
the cash price of gold will go sky high, because it does not exist? that would sure put a short squeeze on these banks
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it.
<< <i>You guys tend to believe everything you read ?
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it. >>
It's only believable if it's on a "big" network?
No, we don't believe everything; we just read everything. "Big" networks don't print everything, and yes, their owners are in on it too!
It's a known fact that the CFTC has been conducting hearings that revealed calculated manipulation of the metals markets by some too big too fail banks. Have you seen any of the testimony on the big networks? Ever wonder why?
You need to be over in the "stocks and bonds" forum. They limit their viewing to the White House approved viewing list. You're not going to "get it" until you do your own research and stop believing in the spoon-fed news.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>You guys tend to believe everything you read ?
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it. >>
From 2000-2008 or so all you heard from the "big credible sources" was buy as much expensive real estate you could afford. Take out the biggest riskiest loan the bank would give you and buy buy buy. They were completely wrong, and only the tin foil hat idiots on the internet had it right. Time will show the big sources are again wrong or intentionally not covering these stories because it would hurt their investments.
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<< <i>You guys tend to believe everything you read ?
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it. >>
From 2000-2008 or so all you heard from the "big credible sources" was buy as much expensive real estate you could afford. Take out the biggest riskiest loan the bank would give you and buy buy buy. They were completely wrong, and only the tin foil hat idiots on the internet had it right. Time will show the big sources are again wrong or intentionally not covering these stories because it would hurt their investments. >>
They were only wrong if you held on to it, but if you sold it by 2006, you, like myself, made a killing. BTW, I listened to a few of the "big credible sources" advising to sell in 2006 ( potential bubble burst )
I have no problem listening to every source, including the PM "doomsday paranoid fortune tellers," but in the end, the decision is mine to make.
Yep, at least two of the networks are in the tank for the admin. They have a vested interest in towing the line with what gets told to the public and what doesn't. But to be fair, they don't have the time to report everything. On the critical side, they report the horror stories like earthquakes and plane wrecks but as far as the economic news goes or big O policies, it's all blue skies and recovery is underway. The odd part is that if things go bad, the admin always says they are still trying to fix the previous presidential errors but when things go right, it's because of their successful actions and sweeping new policies. It's really hard to get any kind of good read from the nightly network news anymore.
Unfortunately, their game is getting very well worn and tired and that's why the viewership for network news is in the dump and their advertising is sucking eggs and lay-offs are tumbling down on their staff. It was a bad strategy in the first place to just trumpet the O crew's party line on everything...they effectively blew off half the potential viewers that aren't impressed with current policy or leadership. When you limit your viewership to only half the available market in the first place then how could you possibly succeed. No wonder the second tier networks like fox are doubling or trippling the daily viewership of -BC evening news, dumb idea guys. But, with the hiring of a number of network executives after the elections for public duty in the admin I guess the fix was in from the start and everyting worked out the way it was supposed to. It's unfortunate that some of the other candidates couldn't get 2 minutes of air time during the elections so we really never heard their story; it was all big O all the time and here we are. Somehow, it feels like are still being gamed. Too big to fail sounds good in theory, we'll see how it goes.
Edited to add: I certainly wouldn't be betting the farm or any part of it on what is portrayed in MSM.
Edited to add further that I think the term is toeing instead of towing as in "toeing the line". It comes from an English Darts term. My error.
Got Cash?
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<< <i>You guys tend to believe everything you read ?
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it. >>
From 2000-2008 or so all you heard from the "big credible sources" was buy as much expensive real estate you could afford. Take out the biggest riskiest loan the bank would give you and buy buy buy. They were completely wrong, and only the tin foil hat idiots on the internet had it right. Time will show the big sources are again wrong or intentionally not covering these stories because it would hurt their investments. >>
They were only wrong if you held on to it, but if you sold it by 2006, you, like myself, made a killing. BTW, I listened to a few of the "big credible sources" advising to sell in 2006 ( potential bubble burst )
I have no problem listening to every source, including the PM "doomsday paranoid fortune tellers," but in the end, the decision is mine to make. >>
Key "I have no problem listening to every source, including the PM "doomsday paranoid fortune tellers," but in the end, the decision is mine to make."
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<< <i>You guys tend to believe everything you read ?
If this is really this big you don't think a "big" network would pick it up?
If they had post a link please.
Or are they all in on it too?
Sorry, sometimes I just don't get it. >>
From 2000-2008 or so all you heard from the "big credible sources" was buy as much expensive real estate you could afford. Take out the biggest riskiest loan the bank would give you and buy buy buy. They were completely wrong, and only the tin foil hat idiots on the internet had it right. Time will show the big sources are again wrong or intentionally not covering these stories because it would hurt their investments. >>
They were only wrong if you held on to it, but if you sold it by 2006, you, like myself, made a killing. BTW, I listened to a few of the "big credible sources" advising to sell in 2006 ( potential bubble burst )
I have no problem listening to every source, including the PM "doomsday paranoid fortune tellers," but in the end, the decision is mine to make. >>
Who were the big credible sources advising the selling of real estate in 2006?
Well, I don't know that PM nerds are really credible sources but the fact that RE was going subterrainian was well discussed in the mother thread for a good while before the slide started.
My feeling is that the "doomsday" guys are getting closer to being the reality than are the Dr. Feelgood "recession is over" baldface liars in the White House and the media.
Take a look at the debt clock, the deficit, the unfunded liabilities, the shrinking demographics, the shrinking tax base, the penchant of our "government" to keep raping the remaining taxpayers - and tell me that things look good. Go ahead, tell me.
If you must work harder and longer to pay for more and more deadbeats on the government dole to recieve their freebies, that essentially makes them your boss, because you are now working for them more and more, and less for yourself.
I don't hear anyone talking about redistribution of the work load, and THAT should be the issue here, ESPECIALLY if redistribution of income is such a laudable goal.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>"Time will show the big sources are again wrong or intentionally not covering these stories because it would hurt their investments."
Yep, at least two of the networks are in the tank for the admin. They have a vested interest in towing the line with what gets told to the public and what doesn't. But to be fair, they don't have the time to report everything. On the critical side, they report the horror stories like earthquakes and plane wrecks but as far as the economic news goes or big O policies, it's all blue skies and recovery is underway. The odd part is that if things go bad, the admin always says they are still trying to fix the previous presidential errors but when things go right, it's because of their successful actions and sweeping new policies. It's really hard to get any kind of good read from the nightly network news anymore.
Unfortunately, their game is getting very well worn and tired and that's why the viewership for network news is in the dump and their advertising is sucking eggs and lay-offs are tumbling down on their staff. It was a bad strategy in the first place to just trumpet the O crew's party line on everything...they effectively blew off half the potential viewers that aren't impressed with current policy or leadership. When you limit your viewership to only half the available market in the first place then how could you possibly succeed. No wonder the second tier networks like fox are doubling or trippling the daily viewership of -BC evening news, dumb idea guys. But, with the hiring of a number of network executives after the elections for public duty in the admin I guess the fix was in from the start and everyting worked out the way it was supposed to. It's unfortunate that some of the other candidates couldn't get 2 minutes of air time during the elections so we really never heard their story; it was all big O all the time and here we are. Somehow, it feels like are still being gamed. Too big to fail sounds good in theory, we'll see how it goes.
Edited to add: I certainly wouldn't be betting the farm or any part of it on what is portrayed in MSM.
Edited to add further that I think the term is toeing instead of towing as in "toeing the line". It comes from an English Darts term. My error.
Got Cash? >>
IF the metals manipulation conspiracy exists, which many of us suspect but cannot prove, and
IF the news media, EN MASSE, are conspiring to supress the story of the manipulation,
THEN you cannot attribute it to political bias. Some media outlets like the current administration. Some insanely hate it. If the outlets that hate the current administration had a story that they thought would hurt the current administration, they would surely run it.
ALSO, don't forget that the alleged manipulation has been going on for some time. Look at the metals prices during 2008, when the previous administration was in office.
Therefore, we must conclude that IF the various news media are conspiring to suppress the story, then it must be for economic reasons rather than political reasons.
TD
A large media outlet is at the mercy of the political flavor of it's owner(s). One of the key elements to political victory is controlling the press and ultimately the information received by the masses. You don't do that by trying to control every reporter and commentator. You make "the man" one of your crony insiders and "the man" will dictate editorial policy. This country is run by a very select few. Those few include the powerhouses behind the banks, the media, the militaryand the political parties. If you control media, money and military you control everything.
Freedom of the press belongs to those that own one.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
It's all good.
Went to local B&M today 2 ea 10 oz NTR silver bars. ($192 out the door) Anyone have North Texas Refinery bars? They were out of 10 oz Engerhard, but they had a nice old 100 oz Engelhard. Owner was in, said he had a 1,000 oz silver bar, whoa. Was junk sliver melted, that would be .89 pure I believe?
JP Morgan and Illegal Silver Market Manipulation
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>New York Post picks up silver manipulation story:
JP Morgan and Illegal Silver Market Manipulation >>
He says that JP Morgan is doing this as an agent for the U.S. government????
TD
Keep stacking and writing senators, attorney generals, maybe more class action suits should be filed.
P.S. Need to make public who drove car into Mcguire and bring conspirators forward. Oh yea it was an accident.
But, dammit, their periodic NEW ISSUE to buy more bullion sure destroys the share price for a while.
Sure, it creates buying ops, but it's still disconcerting.
I still like physical possession best..
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<< <i>New York Post picks up silver manipulation story:
JP Morgan and Illegal Silver Market Manipulation >>
He says that JP Morgan is doing this as an agent for the U.S. government????
TD >>
Why certainly. JP has no interest in keeping the price down. They do it on behalf of the White House's Plunge Protection Team (which doesn't do any actual trading) which in turn allows JP to profit from it. JP's making money with no "skin" in the game. PPT's got all the markets (except metals) propped up by having it's Wall St. agents do the trading.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey