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I'm helping a friend of a friend with some 1800s gold...UPDATED with Grades

FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭
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Hi Y'all

I'm out of element on a couple of pieces, was hoping someone could give me gray sheet on these two:

1857 $3 Gold, seems to me to be XF45, raw....some research said this is one of the more commonly counterfeited years, so is it even worth sending to pcgs?

1898 $5 Gold, seems to me to be maybe an AU50.

Also, I don't know how to tell if they have been improperly cleaned, maybe a look at the pictures?

Any help appreciated. Many Thanks

FloridaBill

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  • FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭
    Opps...forgot the $5 pics

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They both are real and I agree with your grades.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They both are real and I agree with your grades. >>



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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    I think it would be worth sending them to pcgs even if they get a genuine holder just so in the future there is no question if they are real or not.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are both worth slabbing and, unless your pics are hidding something that I can't see, they should both grade.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like good gold to me... Cheers, RickO
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    First they appear to be real they look right in every respect. To sell gold of that era it needs to be in a legitimate slab. My strong advice is to send them to PCGS and get them in a slab as already said even a "GENUINE " no grade designated slab is much better then selling or buying them raw.


    Gold of this era has a lot of very good fakes the 3 dollar especially.

  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They are both worth slabbing and, unless your pics are hidding something that I can't see, they should both grade. >>

    image Get them slabbed if for no other reason than to be able to market them easier and with less hassle. image
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  • FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭
    Thanks everyone for the help! Happy Easter

    Bill
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    spend the extra for Secure Plus or Not ?



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  • FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭
    Sending the $3 in as the quarterly special, with secure plus....I'll post grades when received

    Again, thanks everyone!

    Bill
  • FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭
    Thanks everyone for your help. The $3 was sent in on the quarterly special, and came back in a Secure Plus holder graded VF45+. The $5, in a regular holder, made an AU53. Thanks again....

    FloridaBill
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Very nice, congratulations! It is always a good day when all the coins grade.
    Tom

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,606 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks everyone for your help. The $3 was sent in on the quarterly special, and came back in a Secure Plus holder graded VF45+. The $5, in a regular holder, made an AU53. Thanks again....

    FloridaBill >>



    There is no "VF45+" grade. Did you mean "XF45+"?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,948 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very well done!
    Many happy BST transactions
  • FloridaBillFloridaBill Posts: 896 ✭


    << <i>There is no "VF45+" grade. Did you mean "XF45+"? >>



    Yep, sorry.....

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