There was an eBay seller I used to follow closely who sold cracked-out problem coins bought from Heritage all the time, using the "I comb estate sales all over New York...." explanation. Also sold some fakes. Made auctions private after numerous questions/reports from interested parties. Still scamming along, AFAIK.
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course ) should give them a polite phone call, informing them that Ebay WILL be made aware of this?!?
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course ) should give them a polite phone call, informing them that Ebay WILL be made aware of this?!? >>
My point was, that at the present time, even if someone wanted to contact the buyer, I don't know how they would do so. I already wrote to the seller, and not surprisingly, did not receive a reply.
It's sad to see the results of a PCGS Genuine slab in a major auction compared to the sale of a raw coin. Hopefully this is an anomaly, as I would expect a Genuine slab to add value, not decrease it.
<< <i>Mark, if we all report it to Ebay, do you think that THEY might do anything? Worth a try? >>
Gary, I don't think Ebay will do anything about a coin cracked out of a problem holder and sold as uncertified. And unfortunately, even in the case of the other coin (which was AT'd after it appeared in the Heritage sale) offered by the same seller, there is no concrete proof that he was the buyer from Heritage or the person who AT'd it. Not that I don't think the seller did it, but from Ebay's point of view, there is no proof of any wrongdoing.
Well, here's my take, classic shill bidding even to the extent of completing sales and paying fvf's just to relist and bump higher...I'd guess the shill bidder is francispixie (29)...
I said i didn't like what they were doing. Let me ask you this. If they had bought the coin, cracked it and put it on Ebay with no story to go with it how would that be?
If anyone would spend that much on a raw coin on Ebay they need help. Especially since you can tell from the pics the coin has issues.
I'm not taking up for them. I don't like it either. I'm just saying if they hadn't made up the story I see nothing at all misleading. >>
Please, do not try or attempt to RATIONALIZE this activity.
Whether or not you think it's OK does not make it OK. It is deceptive and you know it. >>
Lee, I completely agree with you!!!! They are crooks plain and simple and should be prosecuted! Maybe the buyer with one feedback will scam them. Funny how this thread's toned has changed from when I posted a similar story of Marc Langston cracking a graded 58 SLQ purchased on Teletrade and relisting on Ebay as in his 'professional' opinion it is a 63 or 64 without ever mentioning that he cracked it from a 58 holder. His deception is a little more subtle - but still deceptive and wrong.
It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course ) should give them a polite phone call, informing them that Ebay WILL be made aware of this?!? >>
I already called the seller and threatened Ebay notification. I am sure they were shaking in their boots.
It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course ) should give them a polite phone call, informing them that Ebay WILL be made aware of this?!? >>
My point was, that at the present time, even if someone wanted to contact the buyer, I don't know how they would do so. I already wrote to the seller, and not surprisingly, did not receive a reply. >>
Neither does Marc Langston when you call him too.
It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
I'm not sure why, but it appears that Ebay removed the listing. >>
I bet the seller did something within Ebay to cover his tracks. Still, if the buyer posts feedback you can bet I will contact him with the Heritage link.
It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
There are two new feedbacks left by a buyer. Anyone know where the origins of the 1911-D quarter Eagle and the 1797 bust dollar and I will send them a note.
It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
<< <i>There was an eBay seller I used to follow closely who sold cracked-out problem coins bought from Heritage all the time, using the "I comb estate sales all over New York...." explanation. Also sold some fakes. Made auctions private after numerous questions/reports from interested parties. Still scamming along, AFAIK. >>
Chris Schuck.......Kingofcoins, Seatedkeydates, many many ebay id's
Search the forum for his name, you will find many threads.
I'm not 100% sure this is the same seller, but I'm fairly sure. Either way someone is back at the same game. This seller is selling several problem coins that recently sold at heritage auctions cracked out raw:
So where is the dead grandfather story? Without him there is absolutely nothing wrong with this auction. Where and when the seller acquired the coin is totally irrelevant to the current sale.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
So where is the dead grandfather story? Without him there is absolutely nothing wrong with this auction. Where and when the seller acquired the coin is totally irrelevant to the current sale. >>
Hard to tell about the 1799. It almost looks like it has a notch in the R in LIBERTY. That would indicate a well made fake. But, it probably is a cleaned but authentic coin. Looks like the field may have been smoothed to remove damage or grafitti.
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dad and grandad no longer collect, are buyers for the eBay selling operation
<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
Do you know the Ebay ID of the buyer?
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
Do you know the Ebay ID of the buyer? >>
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course
Gary
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
Do you know the Ebay ID of the buyer? >>
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course
My point was, that at the present time, even if someone wanted to contact the buyer, I don't know how they would do so. I already wrote to the seller, and not surprisingly, did not receive a reply.
Gary
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<< <i>Mark, if we all report it to Ebay, do you think that THEY might do anything? Worth a try? >>
Gary, I don't think Ebay will do anything about a coin cracked out of a problem holder and sold as uncertified. And unfortunately, even in the case of the other coin (which was AT'd after it appeared in the Heritage sale) offered by the same seller, there is no concrete proof that he was the buyer from Heritage or the person who AT'd it. Not that I don't think the seller did it, but from Ebay's point of view, there is no proof of any wrongdoing.
Gary
Successful BST (me as buyer) with: Collectorcoins, PipestonePete, JasonRiffeRareCoins
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<< <i>I get exactly what you mean jelly bean.
I said i didn't like what they were doing.
Let me ask you this. If they had bought the coin, cracked it and put it on Ebay with no story to go with it how would that be?
If anyone would spend that much on a raw coin on Ebay they need help.
Especially since you can tell from the pics the coin has issues.
I'm not taking up for them. I don't like it either.
I'm just saying if they hadn't made up the story I see nothing at all misleading. >>
Please, do not try or attempt to RATIONALIZE this activity.
Whether or not you think it's OK does not make it OK. It is deceptive and you know it. >>
Lee, I completely agree with you!!!! They are crooks plain and simple and should be prosecuted! Maybe the buyer with one feedback will scam them. Funny how this thread's toned has changed from when I posted a similar story of Marc Langston cracking a graded 58 SLQ purchased on Teletrade and relisting on Ebay as in his 'professional' opinion it is a 63 or 64 without ever mentioning that he cracked it from a 58 holder. His deception is a little more subtle - but still deceptive and wrong.
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
Do you know the Ebay ID of the buyer? >>
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course
I already called the seller and threatened Ebay notification. I am sure they were shaking in their boots.
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
Do you know the Ebay ID of the buyer? >>
No, but Ebay does! These jerk sellers listed a phone number. Maybe someone (other than me, of course
My point was, that at the present time, even if someone wanted to contact the buyer, I don't know how they would do so. I already wrote to the seller, and not surprisingly, did not receive a reply. >>
Neither does Marc Langston when you call him too.
have a great tendency to FLOP!
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
One way you could do this is wait until they post feedback and then click their feedback and contact them that way. I'll be watching.
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<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
One way you could do this is wait until they post feedback and then click their feedback and contact them that way. I'll be watching. >>
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I'm not sure why, but it appears that Ebay removed the listing.
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I'm not sure why, but it appears that Ebay removed the listing.
I bet the seller did something within Ebay to cover his tracks. Still, if the buyer posts feedback you can bet I will contact him with the Heritage link.
<< <i>Anybody tell the sucker? I mean buyer? >>
There are two new feedbacks left by a buyer. Anyone know where the origins of the 1911-D quarter Eagle and the 1797 bust dollar and I will send them a note.
<< <i>There was an eBay seller I used to follow closely who sold cracked-out problem coins bought from Heritage all the time, using the "I comb estate sales all over New York...." explanation. Also sold some fakes. Made auctions private after numerous questions/reports from interested parties. Still scamming along, AFAIK. >>
Chris Schuck.......Kingofcoins, Seatedkeydates, many many ebay id's
Search the forum for his name, you will find many threads.
http://shop.ebay.com/chicagobearslucia/m.html?_trkparms=65%3A16%7C66%3A1%7C39%3A1&rt=nc&_ipg=25&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=1
I found this item (which they received positive feedback for) particularly sad:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120624779403
Just sold via heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1144&Lot_No=11468
Same coin raw:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1843-o-10-u-s-gold-coin-/120633583671?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c16526837
<< <i>Here is a recent example:
Just sold via heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1144&Lot_No=11468
Same coin raw:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1843-o-10-u-s-gold-coin-/120633583671?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c16526837 >>
So where is the dead grandfather story? Without him there is absolutely nothing wrong with this auction. Where and when the seller acquired the coin is totally irrelevant to the current sale.
Successful Trades: Swampboy,
Successful Trades: Swampboy,
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<< <i>Here is a recent example:
Just sold via heritage:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1144&Lot_No=11468
Same coin raw:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1843-o-10-u-s-gold-coin-/120633583671?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c16526837 >>
So where is the dead grandfather story? Without him there is absolutely nothing wrong with this auction. Where and when the seller acquired the coin is totally irrelevant to the current sale. >>
Here is a coin he said was left to him:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1857-s-san-francisco-2-50-u-s-gold-coin-quarter-eagle-/120634333881?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c165ddab9
Here is the same coin that sold september 26 of this year:
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1144&Lot_No=11183
It is plausible this was left to him? Yes. But I doubt it, I'm pretty sure its the same seller as before.
He bid activity is 90% of this persons auctions--Shill?
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seems to work unless a 'private listing' auction
you have to be an underbidder - bid low and early if it is a scam
when auction completed - do an advance search by bidder of your ebay handle
include closed auctions and even if not high bidder
will show items of all you bid on in last month - seller= closing prices= and if closed, winner
the seller chicagobearslucia is not the seller of items this thread was started about are they?