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everyone needs to block this buyer airtank1 he bought a note from me and decided he didnt want it and tryed to file a claim against me to have to pay for it to be returne steer clear
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you want to be taken seriously you need to write in a manner that can be understood.
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  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a good buyer to me. He didn't like the note because he said " TURNED OUT TO BE A DUD WITH A HUGE TEAR,DIDN'T WANT TO REFUND !!!!!".
    You have a 7 day money back return policy. You describe it as Very Fine....really? Also, you have the same note re-listed with Very Fine removed from the title. You can't just come on the forum and lay down a blanket demand that we block this buyer; I think the buyer was right in this case and I would be glad to do business with him.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the plot thickens, how about a link?
  • Interesting!!!??? Need a post to determine WHICH person to block.
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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you want to be taken seriously you need to write in a manner that can be understood. >>




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  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that truly a VF note? Of course, there were decent enough images to scare someone away if it is overgraded. Regardless, you have some poor feedback as a seller.
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that truly a VF note? Of course, there were decent enough images to scare someone away if it is overgraded. Regardless, you have some poor feedback as a seller. >>



    You are being much to generous by stating: "poor feedback" ... In my book the OP has a lousy feedback record. $6.00 in s/h fees for a $20 item, weighing less than one oz? I believe he's trying to get sympathy with the wrong forum.
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that truly a VF note? Of course, there were decent enough images to scare someone away if it is overgraded. Regardless, you have some poor feedback as a seller. >>



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  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    I will stand with the OP on this one. Airtank1 purchased a note from us, a $10 lg size gold cert described as G-4 with pinholes for $77. I get a message from him in all caps saying how he is so upset about the note and a long speech. I gave him our phone number and told him if he would like to discuss it OR I would gladly take the note back for a full refund. He replied by giving a sob story about not being able to afford a long distance call and that it would be a burden to get to the post office. The situation was rectified and this buyer was blocked. I think this is his MO and not worth dealing with.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I will stand with the OP on this one. He purchased a note from us, a $10 lg size gold cert described as G-4 with pinholes for $77. I get a message from him in all caps saying how he is so upset about the note and a long speech. I gave him our phone number and told him if he would like to discuss it OR I would gladly take the note back for a full refund. He replied by giving a sob story about not being able to afford a long distance call and that it would be a burden to get to the post office. The situation was rectified and this buyer was blocked. I think this is his MO and not worth dealing with.

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    Are you saying that the OP purchased the note from you or the buyer that the OP wants blocked.
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  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588
    Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you.
  • GreeniejrGreeniejr Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭
    Sorry about the confusion I clarified my post. AIRTANK1 purchased a note from us and played games as I described. I am not commenting on the note the OP sold



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    << <i>I will stand with the OP on this one. He purchased a note from us, a $10 lg size gold cert described as G-4 with pinholes for $77. I get a message from him in all caps saying how he is so upset about the note and a long speech. I gave him our phone number and told him if he would like to discuss it OR I would gladly take the note back for a full refund. He replied by giving a sob story about not being able to afford a long distance call and that it would be a burden to get to the post office. The situation was rectified and this buyer was blocked. I think this is his MO and not worth dealing with.

    Our linky link >>



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    Are you saying that the OP purchased the note from you or the buyer that the OP wants blocked. >>



  • << <i>Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you. >>



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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you. >>

    Ditteaux.


    Edited to add: By the way ... the OP's note is certainly not a VF, and doesn't even look like a Fine from the pics. It looks more like a VG, and if it does have the tear that Airtank1 claims, it would get an Apparent or Net grade.
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  • you know i dont have a problem giving a buyer a refund but when they demand i give them a full refund plus the Shipping for them to send it back that is just crazy yea the note was overgraded in the title but the pictures were clear as day ...my stupidity of being lazy and using the last auction i had sold one and just inserting a new pic that was my bad but ...my whole complaint with this buyer was telling me he was going to give me a negative if i refused to pay for it to be sent back to me

    by the way there is no tear he is full of it
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Question 1 - Why is this on the coin forum?
    Question 2 - Do you know what punctuation is?
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Regardless, you have some poor feedback as a seller. >>



    What's up with this one?

    "Nice "Awsome Siver" coin, spelling 101, Cust. Ser. not a priority. See Math7:15" by s8andys ? image

    Thats the buyer I'd block since my spelling sometimes conflicts with my typing skills! image
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shouldn't the OP change the title of this thread to "block me"?image

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  • ponderitponderit Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK, I'll block out on the tightend, you block in on the tackle..... wait, wrong forum, sorry
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  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116


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    << <i>Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you. >>

    Ditteaux.


    Edited to add: By the way ... the OP's note is certainly not a VF, and doesn't even look like a Fine from the pics. It looks more like a VG, and if it does have the tear that Airtank1 claims, it would get an Apparent or Net grade.
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    I would agree with you its a G6/VG8 note and at that grade more likely Apparent/Net grade. Nowhere near Fine VF. if you look at the back on the left I can almost see something that would look like a tear that would run from the top just to the left of U in UNITED and down to the center fold. could be a very hard fold too. but I think 7 day return for refund should be honored. The one thing the seller has on his side is that it does say "buyer pays return shipping ".

    My overall opinion is the seller should be more careful on grading and buyer should pay closer attention to what they are bidding on , read listings completely ( like about return policies) and read up on grading and what to look for in notes at certain grades.
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  • << <i>Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you. >>



    And I am blocking you too. Your attitude is lousy.image
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    << <i>If you want to be taken seriously you need to write in a manner that can be understood. >>




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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Question 1 - Why is this on the coin forum?
    Question 2 - Do you know what punctuation is? >>



    The OP has all the traits of a 'Sports Cards and Memorabilia' poster, just the drop of a hat and it's "BAN THIS BUYER!".
  • ResRes Posts: 1,086


    << <i>you know i dont have a problem giving a buyer a refund but when they demand i give them a full refund plus the Shipping for them to send it back that is just crazy yea the note was overgraded in the title but the pictures were clear as day ...my stupidity of being lazy and using the last auction i had sold one and just inserting a new pic that was my bad but ...my whole complaint with this buyer was telling me he was going to give me a negative if i refused to pay for it to be sent back to me

    by the way there is no tear he is full of it >>



    If the description was bad (regardless of photo), you should refund return shipping out of principle. Just my opinion.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is that truly a VF note? Of course, there were decent enough images to scare someone away if it is overgraded. Regardless, you have some poor feedback as a seller. >>



    So, now who do I block???image
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  • OK....so you admit to being lazy and copied your last auction. You admit that the note is not as described. Since this appears to be entirely your fault, you should have offered to pay for return shipping. If it costs you your profit margin or a loss, that's just too bad.

    When I make a mistake on one of my listings or did not accurately describe the item, I pay for the return shipping. My carelessness is not the customer's problem.
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK....so you admit to being lazy and copied your last auction. You admit that the note is not as described. Since this appears to be entirely your fault, you should have offered to pay for return shipping. If it costs you your profit margin or a loss, that's just too bad.

    When I make a mistake on one of my listings or did not accurately describe the item, I pay for the return shipping. My carelessness is not the customer's problem. >>

    Absolutely right. Every event is life is a learning opportunity; this is one of them.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shouldn't the OP change the title of this thread to "block me"?image >>



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    1917 $1 "SAWHORSE LEGAL TENDER US NOTE VERY FINE fr.39 which we grade at Fine. This specimen has a few pinholes visible when held to light,

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    Based on your description of Very Fine I've enclosed an example below.

    Your note based on the image IMHO is VG-6 or lower.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm.

    So what kind of postage are we looking at here since this fellow is more than likely going to get a neg anyway.

    Original shipping was $6.00 and that note could probably be sent at the 3 oz level for $1.22 + $1.75 insurance for a total of $2.97.

    I'd refund the shipping as well as the purchase price and not even have bothered the forums.
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  • LewyLewy Posts: 594
    I've been watching this thread for a while now, and while it has been cruel at times, it certainly has also been honest in responses.

    I would refund every penny that the buyer paid you, and tell him to keep that rag as well. This would save you from dealing with the primary cause (as I see it) of the original post which I think to be his return shipping cost.

    If he has already returned this worthless note to you, refund the money that he paid you as well as the money that he paid for return shipping to you. Someone needs to do the right thing here.

    After all, who misrepresented the auction in the first place which 'caused' the buyer to 'have' to return the note? This thing about "buyer pays return shipping" is ridiculous if the auction was not conducted in good faith to begin with.


  • << <i>Just to be on the safe side, I'm blocking you both as I am pretty sure I don't want to do business with either of you. >>





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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I see nothing blockworthy about this buyer. Also, this feedback left by the OP is a policy violation:

    note was as pictured ((((( WARNING ))) dont sell to just block him

    Russ, NCNE
  • MaineJimMaineJim Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would refund every penny that the buyer paid you, and tell him to keep that rag as well. This would save you from dealing with the primary cause (as I see it) of the original post which I think to be his return shipping cost.

    If he has already returned this worthless note to you, refund the money that he paid you as well as the money that he paid for return shipping to you. Someone needs to do the right thing here.

    After all, who misrepresented the auction in the first place which 'caused' the buyer to 'have' to return the note? This thing about "buyer pays return shipping" is ridiculous if the auction was not conducted in good faith to begin with. >>



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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm.
    First we have a seller who by his own admission is too lazy to edit one letter in the title and a couple words in a 26 word description to accurately describe the note (which is VG at best by the way).
    It's listed in the title at VF, but in the description as both VF and Fine...confusing to be sure, but the pic is of the actual note, which is obviously not VF nor is it Fine.

    Then we have a buyer who buys the note for $35, which is less than VG wholesale Greensheet bid of $38 anyway, so though it's not a super bargain, it's not like they grossly overpaid either. However, the buyer either thought he/she was ripping a VF note for $35, or simply just wanted it on approval to see if it looked better in person...at any rate, they want to return it regardless of their motive...and regardless of the seller's return policy, they can do so any time they wish. As long as they paid with PayPal funded by a credit card they can file a SNAD claim through ebay/Paypal, and if needed, do a chargeback through their credit card company.

    To the seller- my advice...save yourself some extra hassle... get the note back, refund the buyer, give the note to some nice kid, write it off as a lesson learned about not being lazy, and be done with it.

    And put me in the "block them both" camp. image


    Edit to add: It appears the OP has relisted the note and removed the grade from the title, but still calls it both VF and Fine in the description. Sigh.

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    << <i>Shouldn't the OP change the title of this thread to "block me"?image >>



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    1917 $1 "SAWHORSE LEGAL TENDER US NOTE VERY FINE fr.39 which we grade at Fine. This specimen has a few pinholes visible when held to light,

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    Based on your description of Very Fine I've enclosed an example below.

    Your note based on the image IMHO is VG-6 or lower.

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    lol

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