Record breaking 1909VDB MPL cent news!!
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Legend Numismatics and Brian Wagner Rare Coins have put together a private treaty sale of this 1909VDB MATTE PROOF LINCOLN CENT graded by NGC as PR68RB* with CAC green sticker. The new proud and happy owner's are the "McCullagh Collection." The coin was sold in excess of $200,000. After checking with other dealer's who handle U.S. small cents, we believe this coin has set a new record price for any "regular issue" U.S. small cent, MS or PR.
I want to thank Laura and George of Legend Numismatics, who were great to work with and for giving me and my client's a chance to purchase this amazing coin!
Brian Wagner (BWRC)
From the JOHN STORY JENKS Collection: 1909 VDB MATTE PROOF
I want to thank Laura and George of Legend Numismatics, who were great to work with and for giving me and my client's a chance to purchase this amazing coin!
Brian Wagner (BWRC)
From the JOHN STORY JENKS Collection: 1909 VDB MATTE PROOF
Brian Wagner Rare Coins, Specializing in PCGS graded, Shield, Liberty and Buffalo Nickels varieties.
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MY GAWD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
For small cents, it is "THE COIN"
I failed to mention that this coin originally sat in the famous "John Story Jenks Collection". Maybe someone would like to follow up with more information about this famous collector and his coins?
Edited to add:
John Story Jenks sale of 7,300 lots sold over a 10-day period in 1921, garnering a then-incredible sum of $61,379.46.
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What an amazing MPL! Congratulations to all involved!
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<< <i>What would PCGS grade it? >>
sounds like we're going to find out... I don't have access to the pop reports, but are there currently any PCGS PR68RBs of any date??
...nevermind, looks like this one has already been regraded PCGS 67RB... very pretty
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<< <i>...nevermind, looks like this one has already been regraded PCGS 67RB... very pretty >>
Where did you find that out?
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Whatever you are, be a good one. ---- Abraham Lincoln
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<< <i>What would PCGS grade it? >>
sounds like we're going to find out... I don't have access to the pop reports, but are there currently any PCGS PR68RBs of any date??
...nevermind, looks like this one has already been regraded PCGS 67RB... very pretty >>
Mike,
The PCGS pop report for VDB MPL's still shows a total of 104 with the highest graded red/brown as 66RB. The NGC census report still shows a total of 49 with the 2 68RB's still there. My guess is that this coin has NOT yet been crossed, but I would be very interested in what grade PCGS does give it.
Congratulations to Jonathan on aquiring this very special coin and also to Brian and Laura for making it happen.
Steve
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The OP photo was photo 9, and I just wanted to see if I could see the others and it let me.
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Thanks Doug,
As Stewart would say, it's "showdown" time?
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I'd have to say that coin is clearly off the charts!! Congrats to whomever has it now.
So, do I understand this correctly, the coin now sits in a PCGS 67RB holder?
Very nice looking coin. Would love to see it in hand to see what everyone is writing about. Must be a beauty.
Congrats to the new owner.
Jack
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I will put my 1909 VDB matte Proof Lincoln cent which is in a PROOF 67 red holder up against any other 1909 VDB Matte Proof Lincoln Cent.
ps My coin resides in an OGH and Electrifies !!
Stewart
As Stewart is not one to back off a challenge, it sounds like the die is cast.
How about posting the best obverse and reverse photos of both the RD and RB 1909 VDB MPLs on a new topic link [Entitled “MPL Monster Showdown”] and create a poll for that particular thread. Sound like a reasonable way to hold a competition?
At the end of a pre-determined time period, the coin with the most votes is judged King of the Matte Proof Lincoln Cents. All hail.
This may be the start of the biggest competition link in the history of the PCGS Registry.
Jon-Duane-Stewart-Brian [August 2008]. Who would have thought?
That was during the time period known as MPL Mania
<< <i>That was during the time period known as MPL Mania >>
Good memory for sure. That's a time when the MPLs could be bought for a song
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Thanks for your nice compliments Charmy about this spectacular and one of a kind coin.
On a serious note, I can't remember seeing any pictures of Blay's PF67Red, are any out there?
I can tell you it ain't too shabby either, to be very understated The diagnostics on that coin could be clearly seen from 3 feet away.
If there is a show down on these two coins, all bets are off.
But as this is Jonathan's hour ....
Congratulations Jon and Anne!!! Buddy, when you start a RB collection, you don't fool around
Thanks,
Steve
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<< <i>May I ask a maybe stupid question. NGC lists TWO (2) PR68RB 1909VDB MPL's in their current census report. Where is the second example of this coin?
Thanks,
Steve >>
Good question Steve and I believe there is only one specimen out there that was graded.
Its kind of interesting because if you check the Indian Head cent population you will see they show there is 2 coins graded at MS68RD for the 1899 date, when in reality there is only one. Funny it has happened on these two ultra high graded coins?
edited to add: At PCGS including all dates of MSRD Indian Cents only a single 1899 cent has reached this level.
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<< <i>So if a PCGS 67RB (or at least THIS 67RB) is worth $200k does that make a 67RD a $300-400k coin? >>
IMHO that question will be answered someday by the market itself.
<< <i>Color plays an important part too. I think a beautiful "Christmas Tree"-toned PR6XRB coin is worth as much or more than a PR6XRD. >>
Absolutely, any day of the week! In 10-20 years, which coin are you going to remember and recognize in a heartbeat - a red coin, or this monster coin?
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<< <i>Color plays an important part too. I think a beautiful "Christmas Tree"-toned PR6XRB coin is worth as much or more than a PR6XRD. >>
What Rick says here is right on, in many instances I have seen PR R/B and even BN Matte Proofs of same date/grade sell for more more money than their red counter parts. Reds are stunning but some collector's like the beautiful toned look.
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<< <i>Color plays an important part too. I think a beautiful "Christmas Tree"-toned PR6XRB coin is worth as much or more than a PR6XRD. >>
What Rick says here is right on, in many instances I have seen PR R/B and even BN Matte Proofs of same date/grade sell for more more money than their red counter parts. Reds are stunning but some collector's like the beautiful toned look. >>
Brian, that is not a fair statement. You have seen SOME BN and RB coins sell for more than their RD counterparts. By and large, RED dictates the market every time and you can't point to a few Red dogs and gain credibility with your argument. An eye appealing original RD coin in the same grade as an eye appealing RB or BN coin will win every time at auction.
I realize this thread is dominated by RB lovers, and there is nothing wrong with that. I too am a fan of the coin that started this thread. But let's not overlook the entire market which always demands original Red coins.