I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange.
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders.
<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders. >>
The $20 with rainbow toning seen in this thread was in an Old Green PCGS Holder according to CCU
<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders. >>
The $20 with rainbow toning seen in this thread was in an Old Green PCGS Holder according to CCU >>
still prone to being AT especially with all the gold doctors
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
I think I have seen that coin and that it's NT. But, that the color is more subtle and original looking, in-hand.
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina.
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina. >>
Soooo, if you were in the grading room that saint would get the thumbs-up?
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage. ANA Member R-3147111
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina. >>
Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are AT
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
I think I have seen that coin and that it's NT. But, that the color is more subtle and original looking, in-hand. >>
Keep in mind, it's one of Brandon's photos. He has a knack for bringing out hidden beauty in a coin.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<<Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are >>
I disagree. Ive read gold will turn naturally a greenish color at times. I think the images are juiced abit, but I agree with Mark on this one all the way.
<< <i><<Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are >>
I disagree. Ive read gold will turn naturally a greenish color at times. I think the images are juiced abit, but I agree with Mark on this one all the way. >>
well, until i see one in hand im going to lean towards AT.
I love Brandon............I appreciated the first shots on these. MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Have the anaconda coffee cups gone up in price yet? I have a bunch of them, they did not want to carry them out from the Houston money show a few years back
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
I've spent 3 months working on a new website for my new employer.
I've been in a cave for the past several months but get ready for some full force coins.
Yes, it was difficult starting a coin business on the savings of a middle-class citizen but I supported my family through it all.
Yes, I have a new website coming out for Jhon E. Cash (Jhon Cybuski, of Dallas, TX) that will feature over $2,000,000 worth of coins and currency.
You can still contact me at 972-746-9193, however, my email is now brandon@jhonecash.com.
I will be regularly posting to the coin forum once I have all of the initial 1000+ currency notes and 500+ coins are listed. I welcome any contact the wonderful members of this forum would like to make with me, as always.
I think everyone here will love the reference material I've compiled for the new website, including streaming video.
I'll report with the website address when it is ready to go. I also don't want to break any rules of the US coin forum as I know they've gotten more strict and I don't feel like readin them right now.
<< <i>Also, weren't Walter Breen's crimes with young men? >>
No---with young boys. Twice convicted pedophile. He died in prison.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I've spent 3 months working on a new website for my new employer.
I've been in a cave for the past several months but get ready for some full force coins without an Adrian influence. (TDN w/your Peace dollar picture)
No, I didn't get the 250k Adrian posted I was getting. (surprise, surprise)
Yes, it was difficult starting a coin business on the savings of a middle-class citizen but I supported my family through it all.
Yes, I have a new website coming out for Jhon E. Cash (Jhon Cybuski, of Dallas, TX) that will feature over $2,000,000 worth of coins and currency.
You can still contact me at 972-746-9193, however, my email is now brandon@jhonecash.com.
I will be regularly posting to the coin forum once I have all of the initial 1000+ currency notes and 500+ coins are listed. I welcome any contact the wonderful members of this forum would like to make with me, as always.
I think everyone here will love the reference material I've compiled for the new website, including streaming video.
I'll report with the website address when it is ready to go. I also don't want to break any rules of the US coin forum as I know they've gotten more strict and I don't feel like readin them right now. >>
Looking forward to heaving you back around, Brandon.
Anaconda had the sweetest website and most fun descriptions in the business. Spend some time browsing the old archives and you'll be floored by the consistent "wow" factor of the pieces he sold over the years.
<< <i>Anaconda had the sweetest website and most fun descriptions in the business. Spend some time browsing the old archives and you'll be floored by the consistent "wow" factor of the pieces he sold over the years. >>
Well, there certainly aren't any controversial things posted in this hread, are there?
I will not request and do not request that this thread be deleted....that would only cause more controversy. However, smearing someone with inuendo and assumptions in a public forum isn't anything a respectable person would do especially when it comes to some of the issues alluded to here.
However, now that this thread has been "revived" by someone with motives that are thinly veneered with respectibility, anyone with any questions at all, please feel free to PM me. I have nothing to hide but do not wish to violate the rules by discussing things that are not related to coins.
Hopefully I haven't mis-read the intentions for this thread?? They handled some very nice coins. This 1837 half is ex ANACONDA and currently resides in my type set.
No, you haven't. It just got sidelined. If people can put it back on track, and stay on coins and not my neck, that would be OK by me. I'm sure people have pretty much read all the garbage that appears up above and I think that not only can people consider the sources, they can also know me by what I write and what others say about me.
So, here's a coin I owned and sold, NGC Proof 69 Ultra Cameo:
I used to own this one about 10 years ago....hasn't changed one bit....just saw it for sale on Pinnacle's website for $13,750; 1872 Seated Liberty S$1 PCGS PR65
<< <i>Forum member Lehigh has a similarly toned Saint (with the color on the obverse) that resembles the coin pictured earlier in this thread.
As for Anaconda coins in my collection -- I don't have one. >>
I had watched the Anaconda Toned Saint for months and finally decided to take the plunge and buy the coin. I logged onto the Anaconda website and the coin was SOLD. I was devastated and vowed that if I ever saw a coin like that again, I would not let it get away. I bought my Saint from a BIN listing on E-Bay. I paid a small premium which now has been erased by the rising price of gold. The Anaconda Saint was a PCGS MS65, mine is an NGC MS63*. Both are shown below.
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<< <i>Hmmmm. >>
Indeed. >>
Never saw a gold piece with toning like that.
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage.
ANA Member R-3147111
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Indeed. >>
Never saw a gold piece with toning like that. >>
thats because its not real
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So awesome! I loved looking at Anaconda Coins.
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange.
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
No chance whatsoever.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
i have seen hundreds of toned gold pieces and none of them toned like that.
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<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
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<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders.
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<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders. >>
The $20 with rainbow toning seen in this thread was in an Old Green PCGS Holder according to CCU
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<< <i>Don't know the coin, but my gut tells me it's natural. I've seen Saints do some pretty weird toning, all on their own. >>
Consider the source. >>
Guess that's the difference between a "master collector" and an "expert collector." But, I'm sticking with my gut until I see more than just opinions. >>
also keep in mind all the toned $20 pieces are in NGC holders. >>
The $20 with rainbow toning seen in this thread was in an Old Green PCGS Holder according to CCU >>
still prone to being AT especially with all the gold doctors
this is what toned gold should look like
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
I think I have seen that coin and that it's NT. But, that the color is more subtle and original looking, in-hand.
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina.
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina. >>
Soooo, if you were in the grading room that saint would get the thumbs-up?
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage.
ANA Member R-3147111
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
What are the chances this coin would be graded by PCGS if it were submitted today? >>
no chance at all. Gold should only get that pink rosey color and blue. Green is a sure sign its been ATd >>
I strongly disagree. I have seen a good number of highly original/pristine looking gold coins with varying degrees of rose and/or peach and/or green patina. >>
Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are AT
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Hmmmm. >>
I remember that coin from an auction several years ago. It was in an OGH at that time. I remember thinking that if it was AT'd, it was done in a really weird way, and at a time when that was unlikely to increase value of a Saint (at least as far as I know).
I'm not saying it is NT, or defending it, I just thought it was strange. >>
I think I have seen that coin and that it's NT. But, that the color is more subtle and original looking, in-hand. >>
Keep in mind, it's one of Brandon's photos. He has a knack for bringing out hidden beauty in a coin.
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<<Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are >>
I disagree. Ive read gold will turn naturally a greenish color at times. I think the images are juiced abit, but I agree with Mark on this one all the way.
<< <i>I think the images are juiced abit, but I agree with Mark on this one all the way. >>
I remember that coin in hand, and that photo is pretty accurate.
Edited to add that I am referring to the toned $20 reverse.
<< <i><<Mark the mixtures in the gold should not tone green like that at all. Unless these pictures have been severely juiced and it doesnt look green in hand, I am going to have to agree with the gold experts and say they are >>
I disagree. Ive read gold will turn naturally a greenish color at times. I think the images are juiced abit, but I agree with Mark on this one all the way. >>
well, until i see one in hand im going to lean towards AT.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>I love Brandon............I appreciated the first shots on these. MJ
Same goes for me too MJ and i don`t love guys!...lol But heres a couple i picked up from Brandon and the Morgan was a first shot...
AB
AB
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
The photographer was very skilled in bring that color out in the images!
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage.
ANA Member R-3147111
Brandon's image....speaking of photographer skill....
Phils's Image....
Crossed from NGC PF63BN to PCGS PR63RB....what are the odds of a color upgrade with PCGS??
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
I've spent 3 months working on a new website for my new employer.
I've been in a cave for the past several months but get ready for some full force coins.
Yes, it was difficult starting a coin business on the savings of a middle-class citizen but I supported my family through it all.
Yes, I have a new website coming out for Jhon E. Cash (Jhon Cybuski, of Dallas, TX) that will feature over $2,000,000 worth of coins and currency.
You can still contact me at 972-746-9193, however, my email is now brandon@jhonecash.com.
I will be regularly posting to the coin forum once I have all of the initial 1000+ currency notes and 500+ coins are listed. I welcome any contact the wonderful members of this forum would like to make with me, as always.
I think everyone here will love the reference material I've compiled for the new website, including streaming video.
I'll report with the website address when it is ready to go. I also don't want to break any rules of the US coin forum as I know they've gotten more strict and I don't feel like readin them right now.
Also, weren't Walter Breen's crimes with young men?
-D
-Aristotle
Dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas. Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.
-Horace
<< <i>Also, weren't Walter Breen's crimes with young men? >>
No---with young boys. Twice convicted pedophile. He died in prison.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Jhon E Cash
I've spent 3 months working on a new website for my new employer.
I've been in a cave for the past several months but get ready for some full force coins without an Adrian influence. (TDN w/your Peace dollar picture)
No, I didn't get the 250k Adrian posted I was getting. (surprise, surprise)
Yes, it was difficult starting a coin business on the savings of a middle-class citizen but I supported my family through it all.
Yes, I have a new website coming out for Jhon E. Cash (Jhon Cybuski, of Dallas, TX) that will feature over $2,000,000 worth of coins and currency.
You can still contact me at 972-746-9193, however, my email is now brandon@jhonecash.com.
I will be regularly posting to the coin forum once I have all of the initial 1000+ currency notes and 500+ coins are listed. I welcome any contact the wonderful members of this forum would like to make with me, as always.
I think everyone here will love the reference material I've compiled for the new website, including streaming video.
I'll report with the website address when it is ready to go. I also don't want to break any rules of the US coin forum as I know they've gotten more strict and I don't feel like readin them right now. >>
Looking forward to heaving you back around, Brandon.
EAC 6024
Spend some time browsing the old archives and you'll be floored by the consistent "wow" factor of the pieces he sold over the years.
<< <i>Anaconda had the sweetest website and most fun descriptions in the business.
Spend some time browsing the old archives and you'll be floored by the consistent "wow" factor of the pieces he sold over the years. >>
merse
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And I wondered how long it would take for me to see THAT set of images appear on this thread.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
I will not request and do not request that this thread be deleted....that would only cause more controversy. However, smearing someone with inuendo and assumptions in a public forum isn't anything a respectable person would do especially when it comes to some of the issues alluded to here.
However, now that this thread has been "revived" by someone with motives that are thinly veneered with respectibility, anyone with any questions at all, please feel free to PM me. I have nothing to hide but do not wish to violate the rules by discussing things that are not related to coins.
So, here's a coin I owned and sold, NGC Proof 69 Ultra Cameo:
As for Anaconda coins in my collection -- I don't have one.
Pinnacle Rarities
They haven't even described it yet....they must have just gotton it in .....the coin is Incredible and substantially better in hand..
Here's another cool one I used to own, now on Jhone Cash/Brandon's site:
<< <i>Forum member Lehigh has a similarly toned Saint (with the color on the obverse) that resembles the coin pictured earlier in this thread.
As for Anaconda coins in my collection -- I don't have one. >>
I had watched the Anaconda Toned Saint for months and finally decided to take the plunge and buy the coin. I logged onto the Anaconda website and the coin was SOLD. I was devastated and vowed that if I ever saw a coin like that again, I would not let it get away. I bought my Saint from a BIN listing on E-Bay. I paid a small premium which now has been erased by the rising price of gold. The Anaconda Saint was a PCGS MS65, mine is an NGC MS63*. Both are shown below.
My coin would look nicer if Brandon imaged it.