1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers...Greatest Team Ever ?
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Best basketball team ever ?
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72-10 Regular Season
15-3 Post Season
<< <i>65-17 record
12-1 playoff run
Best basketball team ever ? >>
Ummmm, No. (see post above mine)
Yeah that team was pretty darn good.
<< <i>Moses Malone (an all time great player) predicted "Fo, Fo, Fo" during the 82-83 Sixers playoff run to the Championship. He was only one game off. The Sixers came within one game of a playoff sweep to the NBA Crown.
Yeah that team was pretty darn good. >>
White sox did the same thing in 2005...even a tougher feat to do in baseball than basketball. That team isnt even among the top 10 greatest of all time.
<< <i>How about 95-96 Bulls.
72-10 Regular Season
15-3 Post Season >>
Did the 95-96 Bulls have to sweep a team with Kareem and Magic ???
I think you need to rethink your position.
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<< <i>Moses Malone (an all time great player) predicted "Fo, Fo, Fo" during the 82-83 Sixers playoff run to the Championship. He was only one game off. The Sixers came within one game of a playoff sweep to the NBA Crown.
Yeah that team was pretty darn good. >>
White sox did the same thing in 2005...even a tougher feat to do in baseball than basketball. That team isnt even among the top 10 greatest of all time. >>
OK. What are the ten greatest of all time so I can compare.
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<< <i>IMO, they were a hellagood team, but the way they faded so fast starting the next year tarnishes them somewhat. >>
I didn't ask about the 83-84 Sixers team. I asked about the 82-83 team. I asked if that team was the best of all time.
Remember the team that swept Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson 4-0 in the NBA finals.
Not like the 95 Bulls who beat the Sonics 4-2 in the finals. That Sonic team had the "great" Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp,
and lets not forget the great Detlef Schrempf.
15-1 run thru the playoffs, which is the best single season playoff record . Swept the Kings and the Spurs
Also that year they repeated which is always tough to do
<< <i>How about the 00-01 Lakers
15-1 run thru the playoffs, which is the best single season playoff record . Swept the Kings and the Spurs
Also that year they repeated which is always tough to do >>
OK. I like your approach here. So you had Shaq, right ? Well, Moses Malone won the MVP by dismantling Kareem.
Dr. J nuetralized Magic Johnson. Who else did you guys have to match up with Cheeks, Toney, Bobby Jones, and
a good Sixers bench ?
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<< <i>IMO, they were a hellagood team, but the way they faded so fast starting the next year tarnishes them somewhat. >>
I didn't ask about the 83-84 Sixers team. I asked about the 82-83 team. I asked if that team was the best of all time.
Remember the team that swept Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson 4-0 in the NBA finals.
Not like the 95 Bulls who beat the Sonics 4-2 in the finals. That Sonic team had the "great" Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp,
and lets not forget the great Detlef Schrempf.
All right snarky.. I personally think that you can't look at a team in single-season isolation, unless your question is "1982-83 Sixers - Greatest Season Ever?". Teams can catch lightning in a bottle for a season, key players on the competition get hurt, etc.
But, if you're asking about "Greatest Season Ever", then I'd say they have my vote. :-)
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Lakers. Starters: Byron Scott, Magic Johnson,Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, A.C. Green.
Bench: Mychal Thompson, Michael Cooper, Kurt Rambis, Wes Matthews, Adrian Branch, Billy Thompson, Mike Smrek.
<< <i>65-17 record
12-1 playoff run
Best basketball team ever ? >>
The correct answer is "Yes"
<< <i>My vote is for the 1986-87 Lakers . . Adding Mychal Thompson was huge , legit scorer off the bench
Lakers. Starters: Byron Scott, Magic Johnson,Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, A.C. Green.
Bench: Mychal Thompson, Michael Cooper, Kurt Rambis, Wes Matthews, Adrian Branch, Billy Thompson, Mike Smrek. >>
Moses, Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Cheeks, and company already beat Kareem, Magic & company. Wait....I meant.....SWEPT.
Next..........
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<< <i>65-17 record
12-1 playoff run
Best basketball team ever ? >>
The correct answer is "Yes" >>
I remember that 82-83 team very well. They smoked Magic and Kareem that year like no other team ever did. One of the best? YES imo.
I went on to play small college hoops and was not very good at it.
Moses skipped college and went pro, signing with the Utah Stars of the ABA.
I grew up in Denver and over Xmas break in 1974-75 I went to see the ABA Denver Nuggets play the Utah Stars at an old Arena in downtown Denver.
Denver way very good that year and it had David Thompson from N.C. State (1974 NCAS Champs), aka Luke Skywalker, on the team. He was a stud who at 6'4" could jump out of the gym.
My buddies and I wanted to see David Thompson and we wanted to see Moses Malone.
Thompson started for Denver and was phenomenal all game long.
Moses was kept on the bench by the Utah coach until just before half time. He played at the end of the first half (a couple of minutes) and all of the second half.
When the game was finished, the stat line for Moses was, if I recall correctly, 35 points and 23 rebounds. In just over one half of the game
Moses was 19, 6'10", thin (not bulky like he was in 1982-83 on the Sixers), fast and quick. He could jump out of the gym. He rebounded and dribbled coast to coast finishing with a dunk or with a jumper. No one could gaurd him and he made the other players on the floor look like slow, little kids (excpet for DT of the Nuggets who also went off for 30+ points in the game).
Without a doubt this was one of the most entertaining pro basketball games I have ever seen. Ever since that game Moses has been a favorite of mine.
I really got a chuckle out of his prediction of "Fo, Fo, Fo". As a kid and a young adult he had serious problems with speaking. He was like a deer in the headlights when he had to speak, and his language skills were not very good. Today though he speaks very well.
Wish he was still playing.
Like i said with no Norm Nixon and Bob Mcadoo who were out with injuries . .Much different story with those guys healthy
I liked the 86 team with Scott and A.C Green .. That 1 yr wonder wouldn't have touched that 86 team
...when does baseball season start?
When baseball season starts I go into snooze mode. After the college and pro basketball playoffs end, I set the alarm to wake me up when the NFL season gets off the ground.
Watching Baseball = Boring, boring beyond belief.
Sorry to bust your chops but it is so true.
Playing baseball is fun.
Watching baseball is as exciting as watching the grass grow or watching paint peel.
Even worse, at times watching baseball is as painful as having a root canal, without being numbed first; or as painful as listening to politicians give a speech.
I guess you just can't take the "gym" out of an old, broken down "gym rat"
Of course, my lack of interest in baseball may just be due to the fact that I was horrible at it in little league in 4th grade; and that when I tried out for my middle school team in 7th grade I busted up my right index finger [the ball hit it head on, ripping the nail off and bruising my finger so bad from finger tip to knuckle that it blew up to the size of two fingers side by side] while playing first base and fielding a double play relay throw from the second baseman who through the ball in the dirt at which time it did not bouce up into myglove and instead hit a rock and skidded forward slamming into my index finger]. 40 year later my right index finger is still bigger than my left, solely due to that play.
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I remember that 82-83 team very well. They smoked Magic and Kareem that year like no other team ever did. One of the best? YES imo. >>
Exactly. They smoked Magic and Kareem. That's my point. The Lakers were overmatched. They would go to the bench during timeouts with their heads down. Their fans knew that defeat was inevitable, and victory was impossible.
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<< <i>65-17 record
12-1 playoff run
Best basketball team ever ? >>
The correct answer is "Yes" >>
No, the correct answer is 'We would need to know the relative strength of schedule for each team over the course of the 82 game season, as well as the relative strength of each opponent in the post-season, because only someone who needs to take off their shoes to count to 11 would assume that what happens in a seven game series completely overshadows everything that happened in the previous six months. And even with this information we still would have no idea which team was better, because you cannot make that determination based on a 100 game sample.'
If you put two teams into the MLB World Series, and wanted to know which was better with 99% certainty, do you know how many games you would need to play? It's something like a 'best of 6,532'. Why people will fully agree that Robert Varkonyi wasn't the best poker player in the world after his run to the WSOP championship, but in the same breath insist that a performance in a 7-game series unquestionably vaults a player/team into the 'best ever' pantheon, is utterly beyond me.
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See 1966-67
68-13 regular season
Wilt Chamberlain, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer, Luke Jackson, Wali Jones--Bench of Larry Costello, Chet Walker, Matty Guokas
12-4 in playoffs beating
Warriors with Rick Barry, Nate Thurmond and Co.
Celtics with Russell, Havlicek, Jones , Heinsohm, Cousey etc...
Royals with the Big O and Co.
Not bad!
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<< <i>Ummm... not even the greatest 76er team of alltime
See 1966-67
68-13 regular season
Wilt Chamberlain, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer, Luke Jackson, Wali Jones--Bench of Larry Costello, Chet Walker, Matty Guokas
12-4 in playoffs beating
Warriors with Rick Barry, Nate Thurmond and Co.
Celtics with Russell, Havlicek, Jones , Heinsohm, Cousey etc...
Royals with the Big O and Co.
Not bad! >>
You could be right - ...the Sixers 1966-67 team may have been better...the other Sixers team may have only been second best of all time.
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<< <i>65-17 record
12-1 playoff run
Best basketball team ever ? >>
The correct answer is "Yes" >>
No, the correct answer is 'We would need to know the relative strength of schedule for each team over the course of the 82 game season, as well as the relative strength of each opponent in the post-season, because only someone who needs to take off their shoes to count to 11 would assume that what happens in a seven game series completely overshadows everything that happened in the previous six months. And even with this information we still would have no idea which team was better, because you cannot make that determination based on a 100 game sample.'
If you put two teams into the MLB World Series, and wanted to know which was better with 99% certainty, do you know how many games you would need to play? It's something like a 'best of 6,532'. Why people will fully agree that Robert Varkonyi wasn't the best poker player in the world after his run to the WSOP championship, but in the same breath insist that a performance in a 7-game series unquestionably vaults a player/team into the 'best ever' pantheon, is utterly beyond me. >>
You're implying from the WSOP example that Chris Moneymaker isn't one of the greatest poker players of all time? How could you? He's my hero. LOL
<< <i>Stevek.
When baseball season starts I go into snooze mode. After the college and pro basketball playoffs end, I set the alarm to wake me up when the NFL season gets off the ground.
Watching Baseball = Boring, boring beyond belief.
Sorry to bust your chops but it is so true.
Playing baseball is fun.
Watching baseball is as exciting as watching the grass grow or watching paint peel.
Even worse, at times watching baseball is as painful as having a root canal, without being numbed first; or as painful as listening to politicians give a speech.
I guess you just can't take the "gym" out of an old, broken down "gym rat"
Of course, my lack of interest in baseball may just be due to the fact that I was horrible at it in little league in 4th grade; and that when I tried out for my middle school team in 7th grade I busted up my right index finger [the ball hit it head on, ripping the nail off and bruising my finger so bad from finger tip to knuckle that it blew up to the size of two fingers side by side] while playing first base and fielding a double play relay throw from the second baseman who through the ball in the dirt at which time it did not bouce up into myglove and instead hit a rock and skidded forward slamming into my index finger]. 40 year later my right index finger is still bigger than my left, solely due to that play.
I've played a lot of baseball in my time, a lot, a lot...but I don't think you necessarily have to play the game or excel at the game to be a fan. A guy I know from high school was one of the worst baseball players I've ever seen, yet he is one of the Phillies biggest fans. Everyone has their own taste in sports for whatever reason and that's cool.
It always struck me as interesting that ya hear some longtime players in a sport sometimes say that they never watch the game or attend any games. You would think that a game that provided them fame and fortune would keep their interest even after they retire, but I guess they got burned out on it or what not?
<< <i>Those 76er, Laker and Celtic teams were great, but they weren't the best. The best team had the best player of all time on it, Michael Jordan and the best defensive player (non-center) I have ever seen, Scottie Pippen. >>
Yea then add maybe the best rebounder ever (rodman).
<< <i>Ummm... not even the greatest 76er team of alltime
See 1966-67
68-13 regular season
Wilt Chamberlain, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer, Luke Jackson, Wali Jones--Bench of Larry Costello, Chet Walker, Matty Guokas
12-4 in playoffs beating
Warriors with Rick Barry, Nate Thurmond and Co.
Celtics with Russell, Havlicek, Jones , Heinsohm, Cousey etc...
Royals with the Big O and Co.
Not bad! >>
You beat me to it.
I talk up those two teams (and the '70-'71 Bucks) all of the time when these discussions come up.
I'll offer up the 94-95 Houston Rockets. The only team to ever defeat the teams with the top 4 best regular season winning percentages en route to a title.