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How many log in at work?
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How much lost productivity goes on by logging into this highly addictive site while they are at work. I want to feel better about myself by knowing that I am not the only one.
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<< <i>I log in more at work than I do at home. >>
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<< <i>It's blocked at my place of work. Probably a good thing since I teach. Day off today though! >>
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be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
I sense your attitude regarding this would be different.
Steve
<< <i>Not to be judgmental but I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
I sense your attitude regarding this would be different.
Steve >>
Actually, the freedom to do that at work is kind of part of the company culture where I work.
How would the owner feel if they took away freedoms from the employees and they 'worked' more hours in the day but were less productive doing so? Happy employees are productive employees.
You can try to justify it all you want, if I owned a company and people were chatting on the internet on my dime
they would be looking for a new job.
Steve
How would the owner feel if they took away freedoms from the employees and they 'worked' more hours in the day but were less productive doing so?
He would probably feel that he had the right to terminate them from his place of business. Would be my guess anyway.
These freedoms that you speak of, you take them in front of the boss? Lets say you are in the middle of a thought here and the boss
asks you something, do you say "hold on I'm in the middle of a chat" I'll be right with you. I know you want me to be happy.
Steve
<< <i>How would the owner feel if they took away freedoms from the employees and they 'worked' more hours in the day but were less productive doing so? Happy employees are productive employees. >>
This forum would have to be a very big distraction for employees since no one can just look for a few moments and then get back to work.
BTW, it depends on the skill level we're talking about.
It's my experience that hourly wage employees work best when someone's "supervising" them every minute of the day - that's just reality.
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they would be looking for a new job.
Steve
Agree with Steve...unless it's on break or lunch, though...work ethic in the U.S. is fairly sad though, so this is no surprise, unfortunately..
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<< <i>You can try to justify it all you want, if I owned a company and people were chatting on the internet on my dime
they would be looking for a new job.
>>
Glad I don't work for you then. There is also a pretty big difference between chatting and reading a message board for 5 minutes. I agree that unmitigated internet usage negatively impacts work performance, but sporadic use is no different then smoke breaks, coffee breaks, personal calls, restroom breaks, breaks to clear your head. People are going to waste your dime one way or another. If they are accomplishing everything you ask them to do and then some, do you care?
<< <i>How would the owner feel if they took away freedoms from the employees and they 'worked' more hours in the day but were less productive doing so?
He would probably feel that he had the right to terminate them from his place of business. Would be my guess anyway. >>
How would the owner know?
<< <i>These freedoms that you speak of, you take them in front of the boss? Lets say you are in the middle of a thought here and the boss
asks you something, do you say "hold on I'm in the middle of a chat" I'll be right with you. I know you want me to be happy. >>
Am I embarrassed if my boss comes into my office and sees my browser open to something not work related? No. I don't tell him to hold his thought while I finish a post however.
<< <i>Not to be judgmental but... >>
Just as an FYI -- if you open with a statement and then follow it up immediately with "but..." you are negating the opening statement. "Not to be judgmental, but I am going to judge you."
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You have to understand that I have no idea what industry you work(ed) in and you probably don't know what I do. My job does entail being on a computer 8-12 hours a day and supporting users of software and services -- some of them internet based. Internet access and freedom of access are integral to my job such that my company has an acceptable use policy which clearly states what we are and are not allowed to do. Reading this message board falls within acceptable use guidelines.
<< <i>You can try to justify it all you want, if I owned a company and people were chatting on the internet on my dime
they would be looking for a new job.
Steve >>
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<< <i>Not to be judgmental but I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
I sense your attitude regarding this would be different.
Steve >>
Actually, the freedom to do that at work is kind of part of the company culture where I work.
How would the owner feel if they took away freedoms from the employees and they 'worked' more hours in the day but were less productive doing so? Happy employees are productive employees. >>
I totallly agree!
Happy employees produce more in less time than it take unhappy employees a full day's work..
Just as an FYI -- if you open with a statement and then follow it up immediately with "but..." you are negating the opening statement. "Not to be judgmental, but I am going to judge you.
More justifying what you know is wrong.
And FYI my opening statement regarding this was non judgmental, the ones that followed were.
Is it wrong at all places of business? Probably not, is it at yours? I have no idea, is it wrong in general?
You bet it is.
Steve
Please notice the question mark at the end of my sentence.
"Not to be judgmental but I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity? <================================
I suppose I could have written it this way:
Not to be judgmental. I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
Steve
<< <i>Ummm NO it is not negated when followed with a question.
Please notice the question mark at the end of my sentence.
"Not to be judgmental but I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity? <================================
I suppose I could have written it this way:
Not to be judgmental. I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
Steve >>
Wow. Now I feel really bad. Now I won't be able to sleep well at night. Some cranky fart on a message board asked me how I would feel if I were the owner of the company.
Well since I'm not the owner of the company; since I'm just another underpaid, faceless name on his payroll; I'll tell you that I couldn't possibly care less.
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<< <i>Ummm NO it is not negated when followed with a question.
Please notice the question mark at the end of my sentence.
"Not to be judgmental but I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity? <================================
I suppose I could have written it this way:
Not to be judgmental. I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to
be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
Steve >>
It would be better if you said this:
I wonder how many of you that do log in while you are supposed to be working would feel about it if you were the owner of the company that was losing the productivity?
This conveys what you were trying to ask -- "If it was costing you, as a business owner, would you still be so cavalier about internet usage?" There is no need for the "Not to be judgemental" part, unless you really wanted to judge.
I'll give you another example -- if you are at a meeting discussing methods to fix something and you provide you opinion/idea and someone else says "That's a great idea, but what if we did this instead?" What they have just told you is "While that idea has some merit, it is nowhere near as good as mine."
At any rate, the whole concept was a generalization on your part and I understand where you are coming from.
It would have been nice if you had simply answered the question.
Steve
Well since I'm not the owner of the company; since I'm just another underpaid, faceless name on his payroll; I'll tell you that I couldn't possibly care less
Wow I won't either (lose sleep( simply because some AH douche bag on some message board called me a cranky fart.
I couldn't care less that you are underpaid and faceless. maybe the reason you are underpaid
is that your boss feels you are an ignorant douche bag? Is that possible?
Steve
<< <i>..........maybe the reason you are underpaid
is that your boss feels you are an ignorant douche bag? Is that possible?
Steve >>