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Storage Preferences: safe-t-flip or Cardboard 2x2s

Here's an exciting topic image Any opinions either way on which you prefer for organizing your non album or slab coins? I have Safe-t-flips, but when I'm looking through a 2x2 box prefer the cardboard. I also don't necessarily need the flip, I prefer 1 pocket for 1 coin. Arguments in safety or protection either way? I'm about to place a Wizard order either way and want am thinking of switching over.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    While I prefer the 2x2 I also like the convenience of the Safe-T-Flips.

    The only drawback to the flips is that they have a tendency to get scratched up and scarred through repeatedly taking them out of the box and then putting them back.

    Staples in 2x2's need to be firmly clinched down to avoid scratching other coins in a well filled 2x2 storage box.
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer the cardboard 2x2s. I use the flips for short term but even then I notice color change (one the exposed edge) on red cents if I leave them out for a few months. There is nothing like opening up those old 60 slot slide trays full of organized cardboard 2x2s.image
  • ormandhormandh Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭
    2x2's save the coin from friction rub over time. They are pain to reholder, but definitely better for the coin surface.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flips make it easy to have a coin raw and in your hand, and there is no risk of a staple scratch.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When you use the 2X2's, be sure to remove the cardboard dust from the windows which can cause spotting. You can use compressed air or just wipe them off with a clean cotton T-shirt. Also, crimp the staples so they don't tear the windows of adjacent 2X2's when you store them in a box. If you remove a coin from a 2X2, be careful that you don't get a staple scratch. It's best to puncture the window adjacent to your coin and bend the 2X2 and the coin should drop out.

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  • For long term storage I prefer PCGS plastic; please pass the kool-aid.image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For long term storage I prefer PCGS plastic; please pass the kool-aid.image >>



    Even for a $5 or a $10 coin?image

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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    Neither!

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    Most are in year holders but for the issues where that is not possible, they are in their own holders like this. Just a scan above.
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭

    ....kointain in a 2x2. image
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  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭
    Kraft envelopes!
  • i prefer plastic flips because theyre easier to take the coin in and out of when i want to hold it image
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  • I'm beginning to thnk I should just flip a coin.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Neither!

    image

    Most are in year holders but for the issues where that is not possible, they are in their own holders like this. Just a scan above. >>



    That coin is too small for that holder. I would be concerned with that coin slidding around in there.



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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    Perry, it does, or I should say it would. I treat it very carefully so that doesn't happen. And besides, the dang thing is bent so it's not like I have to worry about condition....

    Edit to add: Because there is no holder made for the large cent, I am forced to use a half dollar size. It's the only large cent I own, if I had a better one in my collection, it would either end up in another half dollar size, or be in one of my plastic card holders that I have repurposed for coins (not PVC).
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Perry, it does, or I should say it would. I treat it very carefully so that doesn't happen. And besides, the dang thing is bent so it's not like I have to worry about condition..... >>



    Ever try to staighten your large cent? I've heard that you can put a bent coin between two soft pine boards and wack it with a hammer. Never had a bent coin to try it with.



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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ....might be better to use a vise, instead of a hammer, with the boards. image
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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm wanting to get an impulse sealer for my safe T flips and start using them exclusively. By sealing the side of the flip w/ the coin in it, that should prevent it from moving around.


    A small impulse sealer can be had pretty cheap on feebay.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    2x2s! I love them and so do my kids! They get to staple the 2x2s for me.
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  • I cant believe people still use cardboard 2x2 's. There are so many better options. The square whitman plastic holders pictured here. Airtite holders etc etc.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2x2's in 20 slot archival pages

    You can take all sorts of notes on the 2x2's

    I have a hanging file system and put my error coins in sub categories.

    I can find any coin in seconds.


  • << <i> I have a hanging file system and put my error coins in sub categories. >>


    So you hang your archival pages from the hanging files?
  • What about the self sealing 2x2 cardboards. Are they safe or just a gimmic? They do block total air infiltration.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Arn't Safe-T-flips heat sealable for long term storage?
    Might be something to consider.
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  • << <i>I'm wanting to get an impulse sealer for my safe T flips and start using them exclusively. By sealing the side of the flip w/ the coin in it, that should prevent it from moving around.


    A small impulse sealer can be had pretty cheap on feebay. >>



    i have one that i bought from Brent-Krueger. very high quality. i use it when i have a coin i don`t want to tone and its not worth slabbing. no air getting in assures no toning.
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> I have a hanging file system and put my error coins in sub categories. >>


    So you hang your archival pages from the hanging files? >>



    No, a spine goes through a slot in the archival pages, then I hang them in archival storage boxes.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>....kointain in a 2x2. image >>

    but try to orede some I tryed from all my B/M and no one can get them. image


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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭
    Not a chance, Perry. I won't do anything like that that could possibly harm my coins.
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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>....kointain in a 2x2. image >>

    but try to orede some I tryed from all my B/M and no one can get them. image >>




    ....here you go image
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I cant believe people still use cardboard 2x2 's. There are so many better options. The square whitman plastic holders pictured here. Airtite holders etc etc. >>



    When I was working on my Washington collection, every new coin went into one of those Whitman holders. After a couple of years, I got tired of lugging around 4 Whitman blue boxes of just that collection.

    I switched them to 2x2's.

    After a couple of years, I got tired of lugging around all the cardboard in the 2x2's and switched everything to 1 ½ x 1 ½ and haven't looked back since.

    The only items reserved for 2x2's are the Half Dollars and Dollars.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not a chance, Perry. I won't do anything like that that could possibly harm my coins. >>



    You said that coin was bent. I'm not sure how trying to straighten that coin as suggested could further hurt it.

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  • Either.
    2X2s separated by card stock spacers.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,909 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The flips have the advantage that the coin can be easily removed for closer examination.

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭✭
    Saf-T-Flips all the way

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  • tydyetydye Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭
    I like safe flips as it is easy to get to the coin to view, you can change out the paper on the other side to update information. The downside is the scratches that occur with time. And when you are organizing them they won't stack like the 2x2s. My favorite place to keep circulated coins however is in Coin albums and I have preference for the vintage look using the Library of coins and older Whitman albums.

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