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Nicely toned Large cent?

Anyone know of any? Im on the lookout for one.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are looking for a Mint State example with rainbow colors, I'd say BEWARE! Most all of the examples I've seen were messed with and ruined.

    A really nice tone large cent can take on a beautiful glossy brown finish, but the rainbow stuff is for those who are looking for and might find trouble.

    This is not the best I've seen, but it will give you an idea of the "look" of an attractively toned Mint State large cent.

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭✭
    some nice MS brown examples will develop a nice blue-ish luster to them.......i would avoid any other colors


    p.s. sometimes they also come with nice woodgrain

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  • cameron12xcameron12x Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭
    That's a beautiful example!
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't the alloy for Large Cents vary enough over the years that the types of look caused by the oxidation varied as well?

    Weren't most of the Matron Head Cents harder to find in the nice chocolate brown color that Bill shows because of the less-refined metal?

    At least, that's my take on it.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Large cents could take on a lot of colors - Dr. Sheldon's "autumn leaves" – but some of those colors were types of corrosion which most collectors don’t like. Dr. Sheldon's color set was sold as part of the Dan Holms sale. It was very educational, but the hammer price was well beyond my budget. I was told that I was the only auction lot viewer who looked at every coin in the color set. Large cents can tone in interesting ways, but not with the legitimate neon colors you sometimes seen on silver coins.

    Here is a Matron Head cent that is an even brown. This coin is from the Randal Hoard, and it’s one of “good ones” IMO because it has almost no spots.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,077 ✭✭✭
    I sold this one about a month ago.

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    I also had this 1855 Knob Ear NGC MS66BN about a year and a half ago.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends upon how one defines nicely toned with respect to large cents since this definition could be wildy different between folks and even within a collection between coinage metals. In my own type set I have some copper that I think is quite nice, but it is essentially completely dark and brown until lots of light is thrown upon it and perhaps even rotated. This is in contrast to many of the silver coins where the toning and color is obvious head on. I am in the camp of BillJones when it comes to color on old copper.
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  • The two coins Paul posted are probably as close as you could expect to get to a large cent with some colorful shades on it. That 1855 is quite nice looking! While the toning may be tough to find, eye appealing large cents can certainly be found in many looks from solid chocolate brown to full bright red.

    Whatever you do, wait for a piece with nice even color throughout. Many MS pieces have uneven spotting or color that make them ugly IMO. But patience definitely pays off with early copper. They're out there! Good luck image

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen a few like these. Someone posted one ATS that could have been its sister.
    Lance.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That '55 is a beauty.....supposedly the old time large cent purists really liked the 'greenies'; I didn't know what it meant until I found a '42 with surfaces like that '55 pictured. It is now impounded in my life set image
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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>some nice MS brown examples will develop a nice blue-ish luster to them.......i would avoid any other colors >>



    IMO, monochromatic blue is not a natural color for copper. Blue comes from exposure to soaps, in my experience. However, blue-green, as shown in several photos in this thread, is a natural toning color for copper....Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Go to www.silverstatecoin.com and look on the Rare Coin List. They have an 1851 in NGC MS67BN that has toned to a beautiful deep copper purple that would fit the bill nicely. No pics, but I can vouch for it's beauty and originality. Plus, Tony is a straight up guy that I'm sure would let you return the coin if you didn't like it.


  • << <i>Anyone know of any? Im on the lookout for one. >>



    So am I, but I don't expect the color I see in silver, or even on a lot of small cents, tokens. A nice green would suffice!
  • What do you guys think of this one?

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  • << <i>Needs more toning image >>

    I know, can't find any toned like the Lincolns though image
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    Am I on the BST?image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image


  • << <i>Am I on the BST?image >>


    no? why would this need to be in the BST? im not buying a coin off anyone here, im just asking people if they have seen any real spectacular toned Large cents. If you dont have anything relating to the topic, why bother post?
  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960


    << <i>What do you guys think of this one?

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    Fantastic Large Cent...but not too colorful if that's what you're going for. image

    Come to think of it, as renomedphys pointed out, I have seen several on dealer's sites
    in the last year or 2 with a deep purple hue to them, so that's something to look for.
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  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960


    << <i>Am I on the BST?image >>



    I think this thread is fine in this forum-- not the BST.

    The OP is asking for information, and this has developed into a useful thread with information
    on colorful large cents.

    I think the intent was to gather information about whether or not they are out there at all
    and tips on finding them.
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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a fan of the polish lines on the reverse.
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • Interesting thread and some great pics. Not my series per se but I enjoyed looking at these. Good job Marauder.


  • << <i>Interesting thread and some great pics. Not my series per se but I enjoyed looking at these. Good job Marauder. >>

    thanks, i just havent really seen anything i like in this series and they are great looking coins image
  • Above is a toned 1856 large cent and I would love to get the community's opinion in what I have noticed isn't normal for the series. Eye appeal is beautiful to me but I like natural toned coins.

  • Wow this is an old discussion.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is that is not natural toning, or, perhaps some kind of secondary toning over a cleaning.
    But it’s only a guess. I’ve owned hundreds of large cents, and examined thousands, and have never seen toning like that.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1856 large cent just posted has been cleaned and/or dipped and that is completely unnatural secondary toning.

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  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BennyW said:
    Above is a toned 1856 large cent and I would love to get the community's opinion in what I have noticed isn't normal for the series. Eye appeal is beautiful to me but I like natural toned coins.

    Please make your own discussion in the future instead of hijacking a 14 year old thread. Some people find it very disrespectful. As for your large cent, it looks like it has been cleaned and retoned.

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