Jets could be the 2001 Patriots reborn
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The teams are VERY similar:
1. A young QB that is just asked to manage the game (remember Brady didn't develop into an elite QB until his 3rd year).
2. A strong defense that may bend, but doesn't break, led by a game-changing CB (Ty Law).
3. A strong running game to control the clock.
4. A defensive-minded head coach that isn't afraid to take chances
As much as I hate to admit it, we could be seeing the start of a new dynasty in the AFC East.
1. A young QB that is just asked to manage the game (remember Brady didn't develop into an elite QB until his 3rd year).
2. A strong defense that may bend, but doesn't break, led by a game-changing CB (Ty Law).
3. A strong running game to control the clock.
4. A defensive-minded head coach that isn't afraid to take chances
As much as I hate to admit it, we could be seeing the start of a new dynasty in the AFC East.
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5. Getting some lucky breaks along the way.
Young QB (actually Roethlisberger won the 2 playoff games throwing and had a bad SB) and good run game with a dominating D. The Jets however are much more conservative on offense (Steelers used alot of trick plays) and don't have anyone as good as Hines Ward catching the ball. They will need to open it up IMO to win at Indy.
Everyone forgets that Week 16 was a VERY close game when the starters were pulled. Everyone assumes that Indy would go on to win, but there was nothing to convince me of that, especially since the Jets had field position when the starters left.
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Indy will beat them and that will quiet down this type of talk in my opinion.
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Im not ready to crown the Jets a possible "Dynasty in the making" just yet,
Me either and I'm a fan. Lets take it one game at a time and the Colts resting players is a lame reason why this team made it to the PO.
LAME.
Steve
How can we even mention Tom Brady and the awful Mark Sanchez in the same breath? Or a defensive genius like Bellichek versus, well, a fat guy with a big mouth in Rex Ryan? Let's not forget for a minute what is going on here - the Colts and then the Bengals gave the Jets two games at the end of the season (thereby knocking out the more deserving Steelers and Texans). Then, the Jets get to play the worst team after them in the playoffs (Bengals again) and the worst playoff team with the worst playoff coach and RB ever (Chargers) who did more to lose their games than the Jets did to win them. Now, the Colts and two serious NFC opponents remain - the Jets are out of their league.
But be happy about this little run, because you know this will be the last of the Jets making any noise for a good long while.
EditL If you don't think Rex Ryan is one of the brightest defensive coaching talents in the NFL, you haven't been paying attention. Wake up, man, the secret is out! LOL!
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Really? What made the Steelers more deserving? They lost to the Chiefs, Raiders, and Browns in 3 consecutive weeks. Sorry, the Steelers LEAST deserved to get in out of all the 9-7 teams. The Jets stomped Houston 24-7 at Houston in Week 1.
CT - you seem to forget what everyone said about the 2001 Pats: "the only reason they beat the Raiders was that stupid Tuck Rule"..."they needed 2 special teams TDs to beat the Steelers"...kind of sounds like the same rationalization you are applying to discredit the Jets' success.
<< <i>"(thereby knocking out the more deserving Steelers and Texans). "
Really? What made the Steelers more deserving? >>
The Steelers were absolutely more deserving than the jets. The steelers beat the packers, ravens, chargers, titans, vikings, and Broncos.
With Polamalu back and Ben having his best season ever, the Steelers probably would be going to the super bowl again.
Really? What made the Steelers more deserving? >>
The Steelers were absolutely more deserving than the jets. The steelers beat the packers, ravens, chargers, titans, vikings, and Broncos.
With Polamalu back and Ben having his best season ever, the Steelers probably would be going to the super bowl again.
A team that loses five straight doesn't deserve to make the playoffs, especially when 2 of those games were to the Browns and the Cheifs, no matter who's missing in action.
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<< <i>< "(thereby knocking out the more deserving Steelers and Texans). "
Really? What made the Steelers more deserving? >>
The Steelers were absolutely more deserving than the jets. The steelers beat the packers, ravens, chargers, titans, vikings, and Broncos.
With Polamalu back and Ben having his best season ever, the Steelers probably would be going to the super bowl again.
A team that loses five straight doesn't deserve to make the playoffs, especially when 2 of those games were to the Browns and the Cheifs, no matter who's missing in action. >>
I disagree. During their 5 game skid they had key injuries with Rothlisberger and Polamalu. They got hot at the right time and won their last 3 games over good teams. Every game the steelers lost were 8 points or less. Browns went on to win their last 4 games and is always a big rivalry game. Cheifs game was also on the road.
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<< <i>Injuries are part of football, man and a sorry excuse...anyway Ben missed a grand total of one game, which they should have won if their D hadn't let them down as they did late in games most of the season...The Bungals swept them in the regular season...if they couldn't win one of those two they had no business being in the playoffs. Heck, they couldn't even beat Oak at home in a game that was a must-win for them... >>
Right they put themselves in a huge hole after that 5 game skid. But still had the same record as the ravens and jets. But they bounced back and won their last 3 games. AND the games they lost were ALL close. They beat 4 teams that made the playoffs. How many playoff teams did the jets beat during the regular season?
Yeah some genius, as long as he is stealing signs he's a genius.
Steve
<< <i>Right they put themselves in a huge hole after that 5 game skid. But still had the same record as the ravens and jets. But they bounced back and won their last 3 games. AND the games they lost were ALL close. They beat 4 teams that made the playoffs. How many playoff teams did the jets beat during the regular season? >>
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saying anything. The anti NY bias is really getting old. One year the Sox backed into the playoffs and Jerry
said 'it doesn't matter how they get in they are in'
a NY club.
Steve
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<< <i>. A defensive-minded head coach that isn't afraid to take chances >>
Isnt this team pretty much Mangini's Team?
Isnt this team pretty much Mangini's Team?
Mangini is toxic and no one wanted to play for him. The players will run through brick walls for Ryan and he has them believing in themselves. Look what he's done for Revis alone...
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<< <i>A defensive-minded head coach that isn't afraid to take chances >>
Isnt this team pretty much Mangini's Team?
Mangini is toxic and no one wants to play for him. The players will run through brick walls for Ryan and he has them believing in themselves. Look what he's done for Revis alone... >>
Ryan is a GREAT guy from what I get via news and hearing him behind the mic, Im not disrespecting him by any stretch all Im saying is that its ironic that his success ( so far ) is on the heels of players that Mangini brought in.
Isnt this team pretty much Mangini's Team?
Mangini is toxic and no one wants to play for him. The players will run through brick walls for Ryan and he has them believing in themselves. Look what he's done for Revis alone... >>
Ryan is a GREAT guy from what I get via news and hearing him behind the mic, Im not disrespecting him by any stretch all Im saying is that its ironic that his success ( so far ) is on the heels of players that Mangini brought in.
I understand your point Perk, and the improvement of the Jets defense this season over last with essentially the same personnel only further illustrates the difference in Mangini and Ryan as far as being able to get the most out of his players and getting players to believe in themselves in a winning environment. Two main stars this postseason, though (Sanchez and Greene), are rookies with high ceilings, too.. To me, the real man behind the assembly of this team is not Mangini or Ryan, but Bradway...he's the guy who's gone out and acquired or drafted these players and he's done a terrific job, IMO..
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Wow.
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said 'it doesn't matter how they get in they are in' of course that opinion changes when it's
a NY club.
LOL< Jerry talks so much carp he has trouble keeping all his "opinions" straight..
The bias is so obvious it renders most of what he claims meaningless..
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That is very possible, by the way what ever happened to the last Patriot thread?
It's been a very distant memory.
Win or lose Sunday I'm very happy with what the team did this season.
According to some the Bengals laid down, hopefully those that say that
have some proof. Laying down is a serious allegation.
Steve
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS
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<< <i>So by all acounts this thread should be in the infant stages of a distant Memory come Sunday night?
That is very possible, by the way what ever happened to the last Patriot thread?
It's been a very distant memory.
Win or lose Sunday I'm very happy with what the team did this season.
According to some the Bengals laid down, hopefully those that say that
have some proof. Laying down is a serious allegation.
Steve >>
What happened to the Pats thread- we lost. The difference is my Pats thread was about this season, this thread is more along the lines about a Jets dynasty being born which is freakin' ridiculas if you ask me.
Like I said once Indy crushes this team the "Dynasty" talk will be a distant memory, perhaps I should have worded it that way instead of saying the thread will be a distant memory.
And I agree you should be very proud of your team this year, regardless how they got here they are here and thats the bottom line.
<< <i>LOL< Jerry talks so much carp he has trouble keeping all his "opinions" straight.. >>
I agree, I said as much earlier in the thread.
The bottom line is the Jets ARE playing tomorrow and some here just can't accept that.
Claiming teams laid down is BS. Saying a team laid down is implying a team allowed
another team to win on purpose.
Steve
But spinning that into a "Jets dynasty"? Wow, now that is a big load of carp.
And it may nit have been your point but it could be read that way.
Sanchez looked mighty pathetic on that TD pass I may add.
Steve
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Edit: maybe next year we should videotape the other team's practices to be more like those '01 Pats, LOL...
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<< <i>We'll be back next year and Sanchez will have a season under his belt...this was just a stepping stone..
Edit: maybe next year we should videotape the other team's practices to be more like those '01 Pats, LOL...
Good idea, you guys need as much help as you can get!
<< <i>Thankfully, this thread may now end. And Rex Ryan can still make it to McDonalds for a late night run at the dollar menu. >>
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Good idea, you guys need as much help as you can get!
WE need HELP?? Where were the pats during the division finals? Tivo-ing the JETS to get some advice on how to play defense?
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<< <i>Boy, that Sanchez is horrible! 2 TDs 0 INTs...Hey, Jerry, you must win a bundle at sports betting, LOL!! >>
Didn't he throw a pick?
ESPN.com shows a pick.
Didn't he throw a pick?
ESPN.com shows a pick.
No, not at the time I posted that he hadn't..
And in fairness to him, the pick he did throw late was on a deflection..
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<< <i>Good idea, you guys need as much help as you can get!
WE need HELP?? Where were the pats during the division finals? Tivo-ing the JETS to get some advice on how to play defense? >>
Do yourself a favor and try posting & talking your team up during the regular season and you might understand Im clowning around with Grote.
See what happens when your a fairweather fan and only post when your team makes it to the AFC Championship game?