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  • 65FH
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    AU. Fuzz on leg (did she forget to shave?) and disturbed field luster
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hard to accurately grade from a picture, but this coin looks like it was messed with.
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>hard to accurately grade from a picture, but this coin looks like it was messed with. >>



    I agree. Probably a genuine holder.
  • sorry guys, someone messed with my camera i guess on christmas and changed the settings, i am taking new pics right now.
  • new pics up
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64FH...
  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    65FH

    nice piece...
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64
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  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was going to say PCGS Genuine too.

    Going by what I see, I guess I could see it as 58FH or 64FH, assuming it got a grade. The luster is good, it's well struck, and it's admirably free of marks. I see some friction, though, i think.
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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    New photos. No change in AU grade for the reasons previously stated.
  • It's not AU, it used to be in a 62FH OGH
  • Actually, while I originally said 65FH... the more I look at it, the more I'm inclined to think 66FH... (and I will add that my grading opinion, in this caseimage , is worth about what you paid for it image because grading from pics is nothing more or less than a crap shoot... image )
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  • << <i>Actually, while I originally said 65FH... the more I look at it, the more I'm inclined to think 66FH... (and I will add that my grading opinion, in this caseimage , is worth about what you paid for it image because grading from pics is nothing more or less than a crap shoot... image ) >>

    Larry I'll show it to you at parsippanu with a few other pieces, you'll get a real kick out of them image
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Doesn’t matter if it came out of a gold plated, super deluxe, rattle snake infested holder stored for fifty years in Granny’s knickers.

    My opinion: Abrasion on the leg and disturbed luster = AU. Detail is excellent, toes, rivits, etc. FH is normal for this variety. Others will certainly have their own opinions.

    Is it a high quality coin? Yes. Does it merit a premium price? Probably, esp from a collector who values quality over some printed label.


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    << <i>Actually, while I originally said 65FH... the more I look at it, the more I'm inclined to think 66FH... (and I will add that my grading opinion, in this caseimage , is worth about what you paid for it image because grading from pics is nothing more or less than a crap shoot... image ) >>

    Larry I'll show it to you at parsippanu with a few other pieces, you'll get a real kick out of them image >>




    I definately want to see that coin in hand... especially now that you tell us it used to be in a 62FH holder... image

    ...if your pics are even close to accurate, that would be one of the most severe undergrades of all time...
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image


  • << <i>Doesn’t matter if it came out of a gold plated, super deluxe, rattle snake infested holder stored for fifty years in Granny’s knickers.

    My opinion: Abrasion on the leg and disturbed luster = AU. Detail is excellent, toes, rivits, etc. FH is normal for this variety. Others will certainly have their own opinions.

    Is it a high quality coin? Yes. Does it merit a premium price? Probably, esp from a collector who values quality over some printed label. >>




    You got some magic eyes there RWB... I do not see what you are seeing at all... but no matter... this is all in fun, trying to accurately grade a coin from a pic... image
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    I was gonna say AU 63 or altered surfaces. Photos make the coin look a bit odd.

    That said, I do see some high point rub on the coin, thus the grade guess above.

    Nice coin, regardless, and I'd like to buy it in a 62 holder. image

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  • I vote AU58 FH

    (at least we all agree on the FH designation!)
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63 FH
  • A bit harshly cleaned, retoning.

    Some hint of die clash, isn't there?
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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    I called it a 63FH before I saw the commentary....
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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65FH, AU58FH or cleaned.
    Need more pics.
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  • << <i>A bit harshly cleaned, retoning.

    Some hint of die clash, isn't there? >>

    Harshly cleaned? Your looking at the coin with 30x magnification, no hairlines on the coin.

    i will post the grade tomorrow image
  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it was whizzed.
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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AS everyone else said, it's hard to tell from a huge pic like that. The only (possible) rub or luster break I see is on her knee, so it probably got a 64FH unless what appear to be horizontal hairlines on the reverse are old cleaning marks, which might throw it into a genuine holder. It's nicely struck, as are most of the Ty I Philly's.
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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was in a 62FH holder?
    Still looks 65ish
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Harshly cleaned? Your looking at the coin with 30x magnification, no hairlines on the coin.

    well, understand that a Professional Grader working at PCGS/NGC will typically have above average vision, the ability to tilt the coin, superior lighting and will also use a loupe, typically 5-10X, so commenting on what the large picture shows is legitinate. with al, that said, it should come as no surprise how i keep repeating that it isn't to be expected to reliably grade a coin from online pictures.
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  • << <i>Harshly cleaned? Your looking at the coin with 30x magnification, no hairlines on the coin.

    well, understand that a Professional Grader working at PCGS/NGC will typically have above average vision, the ability to tilt the coin, superior lighting and will also use a loupe, typically 5-10X, so commenting on what the large picture shows is legitinate. with al, that said, it should come as no surprise how i keep repeating that it isn't to be expected to reliably grade a coin from online pictures. >>

    i didnt mean anything by what i say, i was just stating you were looking at the picture from the best standpoint, i cant take a more accurate picture of the coin, if it was cleaned they must of used 5000000 grit sandpaper image
  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is well struck, there are minimum marks - so why did it only grade a 62 (and I agree fully with teh FH designation)? The grader saw the bright almost un-natural look of the devices. That look "IN THIS IMAGE" as if they have been lightly messed with. Since there are no noticeable hairlines and the detail is there, the grader gave it a low uncirculated FH grade.
    I have a suspicion if the coin was turned in for grading today AND IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THAT, it would come back in a Genuine holder altered surfaces.
    I hate to talk down a nice coin, but assume you were looking for honest opinions.
    Best wishes,
    Pete
    Edited to add: This coin might have been dipped and retoned also, this could account for the very bright centers and lightly toned edges.
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  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS66FH
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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where is Jason Cline when we need him? image
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    << <i>A bit harshly cleaned, retoning.

    Some hint of die clash, isn't there? >>

    Harshly cleaned? Your looking at the coin with 30x magnification, no hairlines on the coin.

    i will post the grade tomorrow image >>




    We're waiting... image ...it is now Wednesday image
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  • Halfhunter06Halfhunter06 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    i would say 65 FH..the llighting is not the best on the coin...looks as if i t was cleaned
  • It's in a MS66FH holder guys image I'll mess with the lighting a bit more.
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's in a MS66FH holder guys image I'll mess with the lighting a bit more. >>



    From a 62FH OGH to a 66FH??????
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    << <i>It's in a MS66FH holder guys image I'll mess with the lighting a bit more. >>



    From a 62FH OGH to a 66FH?????? >>

    Correct, I submitted it raw though. I'm going to retake the pics with different settings, I'll use less lighting this time


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    << <i>Actually, while I originally said 65FH... the more I look at it, the more I'm inclined to think 66FH... (and I will add that my grading opinion, in this caseimage , is worth about what you paid for it image because grading from pics is nothing more or less than a crap shoot... image ) >>

    Larry I'll show it to you at parsippanu with a few other pieces, you'll get a real kick out of them image >>




    I definately want to see that coin in hand... especially now that you tell us it used to be in a 62FH holder... image

    ...if your pics are even close to accurate, that would be one of the most severe undergrades of all time... >>




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    so much for my POLL thread...lol imageimage
    Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free image
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I want to see pictures of this coin in a 62 holder and then now in the 66!

    the obverse of the coin especially on liberty's body looks very dulled out imop from the pictures.
    my thoughts were possible harshly cleaned, or even wizzed.
    the surfaces otherwise look like they have great potential for a high grade.
    on the reverse between the eagles wings and above looks as if there is a semi prooflike glare shining through.

    in conclusion;
    based on these pictures (imop) the coin could either be cleaned/wizzed/high au/mid ms/high ms

    final conlusion;
    grading from pictures is not easy.
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  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    64FH though I don't like the looks of the fields on the reverse.
    GMan


  • << <i>I want to see pictures of this coin in a 62 holder and then now in the 66!

    the obverse of the coin especially on liberty's body looks very dulled out imop from the pictures.
    my thoughts were possible harshly cleaned, or even wizzed.
    the surfaces otherwise look like they have great potential for a high grade.
    on the reverse between the eagles wings and above looks as if there is a semi prooflike glare shining through.

    in conclusion;
    based on these pictures (imop) the coin could either be cleaned/wizzed/high au/mid ms/high ms

    final conlusion;
    grading from pictures is not easy. >>

    I do not have the MS62 shot, this coin was actually sitting in my PCGS box raw for about 8 months, I was too lazy to send the coins out till about a month and a half ago image
  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62 to 66 is the biggest jump in MS I have ever heard of.
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  • << <i>62 to 66 is the biggest jump in MS I have ever heard of.
    image >>

    really? I always thought Genuine to any grade was bigger image
  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    I've never seen that big of a jump in grades either!

    Congrats! You have the eye my friend image

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  • << <i>I've never seen that big of a jump in grades either!

    Congrats! You have the eye my friend image

    image >>

    you should see some other coins i just got back from NGC, man did they rape me on those. image
  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>It's in a MS66FH holder guys image I'll mess with the lighting a bit more. >>



    From a 62FH OGH to a 66FH?????? >>

    Correct, I submitted it raw though. I'm going to retake the pics with different settings, I'll use less lighting this time >>



    You get a GIGANTIC "You Suck" for that one! image
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    << <i>

    << <i>It's in a MS66FH holder guys image I'll mess with the lighting a bit more. >>



    From a 62FH OGH to a 66FH?????? >>

    Correct, I submitted it raw though. I'm going to retake the pics with different settings, I'll use less lighting this time >>



    You get a GIGANTIC "You Suck" for that one! image >>

    I think I deserve it though lol, I've been screwed on all my submissions prior to this one.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What does the next owner get? An AU-58 in a 66FH holder? I fail to see the reason to be so happy. Every gift grade demotes the values of the entire population of accurately graded coins.
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