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I'm thinking about a diluted 3 to one dip

gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
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than resubmitting to PCGS,yes/no.Or just leave it.image

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  • terribleredmonsterterribleredmonster Posts: 456 ✭
    Based on these images I don't see how a dip would benefit this coin. JMHO.
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Why? Please explain your plan in more detail. Thanks!
  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd leave it alone!

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why? Please explain your plan in more detail. Thanks! >>



    My plan was to crack, dip,and resubmit and hope for an MS 66.But i would need to get rid of
    the light brown on the reverse.....just for the fun of it and see what happens.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    I did not think that toning this light would play any part at all in the grade. But then again, i'm no expert; no experience with this. That's why I asked; so that I could learn.

    If you do it, please report on what happens.
  • terribleredmonsterterribleredmonster Posts: 456 ✭
    If that toning were ugly a dip might be in order, but it's so mild and even pleasant that I'm sure it won't negatively effect the grade. It's not going to get you an eye appeal bump either, but it certainly won't hurt you.
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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭


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    << <i>Why? Please explain your plan in more detail. Thanks! >>



    My plan was to crack, dip,and resubmit and hope for an MS 66.But i would need to get rid of
    the light brown on the reverse.....just for the fun of it and see what happens
    . >>

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like that light brown was caused from a previous dip IMO.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭
    I guess we just don't have enough threads about dipping and AT-ing good coins here. image
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another dipping and it will probally make AU55 with a shot at 58 if a little of the luster is left.
    It looks to me that it has allready had enouph dipping.
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  • terribleredmonsterterribleredmonster Posts: 456 ✭
    What are the diagnostics being used here to determine that this coin is previously dipped? Is it just the look of it? There is a certain washed out appearance to it, but I figured that was just the image. As far as the toning being evidence of past dipping, how does one arrive at that conclusion? I've got a handful of coins that I've dipped over the years and I haven't seen anything on them that screams dipped (I am pretty careful about how I dip). Is this just the product of experience talking? Maybe something that's evident after handling a few hundred dipped coins? Or is this just speculation.

    Just curious.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see a 66 happening on that coin, and would recommend selling it to someone who doesn't feel the urge to dip it before having it in hand. If you want it in PCGS plastic, try crossing it in the holder at 65 first.
    John
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like that light brown was caused from a previous dip IMO. >>



    Al I go along with the above. Don't mess with it.

    Ken
  • AmigoAmigo Posts: 966 ✭

    Leave it. I'd rather buy it thinking it hasn't been redipped in the last year.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Every time a coin is dipped, MikeInFL sheds a tear.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    The problem with dipping is that it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • soty27soty27 Posts: 1,956
    Ahh just wanted to get opinions out in the open about your future attempt at destroying coins? IMO you are no better then coin doctors who AT coins image
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Personally, I don;t think the coin will ever grade MS66 and any dipping that occured might actually highlight that stuff on her left leg.

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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Going by the image technically it might 66, but, when I see a coin that looks undergraded first thing I ask my self is why? Did they make a mistake or is there a reason.
    I give it the evil eye for hairlines hidden marks etc. But first thing on a coin such as this I look at the luster or lack of. In this image I don't see the pop/luster of a 66 coin.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It ain't broken so don't try to fix it.

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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ahh just wanted to get opinions out in the open about your future attempt at destroying coins? IMO you are no better then coin doctors who AT coins image >>



    If you knew Al you would not spew garbage like the above. What a tool!

    Ken
  • soty27soty27 Posts: 1,956


    << <i>

    << <i>Ahh just wanted to get opinions out in the open about your future attempt at destroying coins? IMO you are no better then coin doctors who AT coins image >>



    If you knew Al you would not spew garbage like the above. What a tool!

    Ken >>



    Incorrect assumption on your part. I view people that dip coins the same way I view prople who AT coins, IMO they are coin doctors. While others think dipping is a great idea I view it as a way to alter the surface of a coin. I do not agree with people altering the surface of a coin in any way shape or form. While there are great arguments on both sides of this topic I look at it as altering a coins surfaces IMO dipping a coin destroys the original surfaces. There are numerous dips and various ways to go about it and several people who say it does nothing to the surface and several people who say it does alter the surface. This is simply my opinion based on information I have gathered over the years. Your name calling makes it clear that you are unable to have an adult conversation based on facts without resorting to childish acts.
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd leave the coin be. From the image, I think it has too many contact marks on the skirt-lines to grade higher. It looks like a mid-grade 5 from the contact marks on the skirt-lines, which I've usually seen in this grade.

    I did upgrade one in 5 to 6 in 1999. You need outstanding eye appeal for a 6, and I can't tell from the image whether this coin has it. Good eye appeal won't cut it. Also, my coin has no contact marks on the skirt-lines. It had a few on the eagle's wings on the reverse, which kept it from the coveted MS 67 grade.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was just a thought.I'm not going to dip the coin.Or crack it for that matter,besides
    i can't have Mike In Florida shedding any tears,it's been raining for two day's and we
    had enough wet weather.

    Hey Kenimage.....look at what he sells and consider the source.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,371 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Based on these images I don't see how a dip would benefit this coin. JMHO. >>



    ditto!
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  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭


    << <i>Every time a coin is dipped, MikeInFL sheds a tear. >>



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  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    WHAT?!

    I take back anything nice I said about that beautiful $10 Indian you posted the other day.... image
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,371 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Every time a coin is dipped, MikeInFL sheds a tear. >>



    image >>



    but he shouldn't shed a tear for this one because it's already been dipped before.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭


    << <i>Every time a coin is dipped, MikeInFL sheds a tear. >>

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Going by the image technically it might 66, but, when I see a coin that looks undergraded first thing I ask my self is why? Did they make a mistake or is there a reason.
    I give it the evil eye for hairlines hidden marks etc. But first thing on a coin such as this I look at the luster or lack of. In this image I don't see the pop/luster of a 66 coin. >>



    The coin is currently an NGC 65.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Toning only adds to the proof of not being messed with (at least recently).
    Better chance with than without the toning.

    bob
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  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Grip has been recorded in the IngSoc DoublePlusBad Lists as a ThoughtCriminal, class 2 Dipping Infractelony.

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  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 899 ✭✭✭✭

    "<It looks like that light brown was caused from a previous dip IMO. >

    stman is right.

    Take it from experience this coin was dipped before and was not washed off good enough, Hence the light brownish spots.
    You chance a diminished lustre on the coin with every redip, eventually it will looked washed out.

    Krueger
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165 ✭
    Al, just my opinion here FWIW, but I wouldn't do it.

    Each time a coin is dipped irreversible transitions take place.

    Can't tell from the pics whether it's Original or not BUT it is

    what it is. Let it stay that way. image
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