Why aren't PCGS boxes green?

bushmaster8

Not green colored (been there...), RECYCLEABLE.

Pretty irresponsible and Orange Co. if you ask me....

savoyspecial

even better than RECYCLED, they get REUSED


i seriously doubt if any are thrown out

coinguy1

<< <i>even better than RECYCLED, they get REUSED


i seriously doubt if any are thrown out >>

I throw them out and I doubt I'm the only one.

MrEureka

i seriously doubt if any are thrown out

Dealers throw out tons of them. Go to any major show and towards the end of it you'll see them scattered all over the floor. And I can only imagine, for example, how many dumpsters Heritage fills with them every year.

savoyspecial

might want to reconsider throwing them out Mark

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also, look for your carbon credit bill to be coming in the mail any day now

ColonialCoinUnion

I save and reuse all of them for shipping. Except for the one my son uses to store Legos.

DennisH

They used to be green before they switched to blue.

coinguy1

<< <i>might want to reconsider throwing them out Mark

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also, look for your carbon credit bill to be coming in the mail any day now >>

I've seen them offered for sale. But considering that they are sometimes given out for free, I wouldn't feel right selling them.

LanLord

Wouldn't making them out of a substance that easily decomposes cause some outgassing problems that could either damage coin surfaces or lead to colour changes in reactive metals?

Walmann

I thought they had to be blue do to the impact that grading results often have on the submitter.

notwilight

<< <i>Wouldn't making them out of a substance that easily decomposes cause some outgassing problems that could either damage coin surfaces or lead to colour changes in reactive metals? >>



Certainly wouldn't help anything. Choosing a very stable plastic is a good idea.

Recycling is a process designed to make the initiator feel better. It isn't cost effective or a significant help to the environment (with very few exceptions). Sometimes the energy costs alone make it a foolish idea but is is often done anyway because of laws pushed through by "environmentalists".

So if it makes you feel good, do it. But don't worry about the PCGS boxes.

--Jerry

bushmaster8

<< <i> But don't worry about the PCGS boxes.

--Jerry >>



I worry about the planet, and you should too!

BECOKA

Mark, if you have a table at shows you might want to consider a giveaway of free PCGS boxes. I know the one time I did this at the Santa Clara show it was a big hit and folks appeared appreciative.

DennisH

"I've seen them offered for sale. But considering that they are sometimes given out for free, I wouldn't feel right selling them."

There are LOTS of things that people sometimes give away for all sorts of reasons, but that doesn't mean they don't have value, does it? There's a whole separate giveaway message forum here on the boards that is full of examples of things that are given away, and at ANA and FUN shows PCGS has often given out things like American Silver Eagles at the Set Registry luncheons. I was once even given an MS63 St. Gaudens; that darn sure has value. Just because one person's cost of acquisition is low or nill doesn't mean the identical items that everyone else has don't have value.

dbldie55

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<< <i>Wouldn't making them out of a substance that easily decomposes cause some outgassing problems that could either damage coin surfaces or lead to colour changes in reactive metals? >>



Certainly wouldn't help anything. Choosing a very stable plastic is a good idea.

Recycling is a process designed to make the initiator feel better. It isn't cost effective or a significant help to the environment (with very few exceptions). Sometimes the energy costs alone make it a foolish idea but is is often done anyway because of laws pushed through by "environmentalists".

So if it makes you feel good, do it. But don't worry about the PCGS boxes.

--Jerry >>



Well said.

notwilight

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<< <i> But don't worry about the PCGS boxes.

--Jerry >>



I worry about the planet, and you should too! >>




I won't debate you because I don't feel the need to change your mind and hope you don't feel the need to change mine but I had to chuckle at the idea of a mass twice the size of Texas--my first thought was show me an image of this supposed "mass"--but later in the article they explain that it is "invisible"....

PerryHall

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<< <i>even better than RECYCLED, they get REUSED


i seriously doubt if any are thrown out >>

I throw them out and I doubt I'm the only one. >>



How many dealers would make the effort to recycle them if they were recyclable?

MrEureka

NGC uses cardboard and it works just fine. And the NGC boxes are easier to re-use, because they fit both PCGS and NGC slabs.

coinguy1

<< <i>"I've seen them offered for sale. But considering that they are sometimes given out for free, I wouldn't feel right selling them."

There are LOTS of things that people sometimes give away for all sorts of reasons, but that doesn't mean they don't have value, does it? There's a whole separate giveaway message forum here on the boards that is full of examples of things that are given away, and at ANA and FUN shows PCGS has often given out things like American Silver Eagles at the Set Registry luncheons. I was once even given an MS63 St. Gaudens; that darn sure has value. Just because one person's cost of acquisition is low or nill doesn't mean the identical items that everyone else has don't have value. >>

Fair point.

topstuf

<< <i>NGC uses cardboard and it works just fine. And the NGC boxes are easier to re-use, because they fit both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



One of the dumbest moves PCGS retains. People pay premiums for NGC plastic boxes and the ADVERTISING is on the outside of the box.

Never understood why PCGS just doesn't make em a skosh bigger.

Barry

PerryHall

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<< <i>NGC uses cardboard and it works just fine. And the NGC boxes are easier to re-use, because they fit both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



One of the dumbest moves PCGS retains. People pay premiums for NGC plastic boxes and the ADVERTISING is on the outside of the box.

Never understood why PCGS just doesn't make em a skosh bigger. >>



Maybe they are in denial that people buy and collect NGC slabbed coins.

CarlWohlforth

Dealers: Please consider giving away extra boxes to collectors at shows. They are a good way to store coins, many collectors want some and the giveaway can earn you some goodwill.

BECOKA

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<< <i>NGC uses cardboard and it works just fine. And the NGC boxes are easier to re-use, because they fit both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



One of the dumbest moves PCGS retains. People pay premiums for NGC plastic boxes and the ADVERTISING is on the outside of the box.

Never understood why PCGS just doesn't make em a skosh bigger. >>



They don't need to be any bigger to hold thier product. NGC just makes an oversized slab that needs a different box and I don't see why PCGS should try to waste more plastic to accomodate them.

topstuf

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They don't need to be any bigger to hold thier product. NGC just makes an oversized slab that needs a different box and I don't see why PCGS should try to waste more plastic to accomodate them. >>



Coins are a hobby and PCGS is a business. Businesses usually value advertising.

WTCG

<< <i>i seriously doubt if any are thrown out

Dealers throw out tons of them. Go to any major show and towards the end of it you'll see them scattered all over the floor. And I can only imagine, for example, how many dumpsters Heritage fills with them every year. >>



They don't throw them away. They either leave them out on their table for others to take or they sell them to dealers who sell them on EBay.

One high end dealer puts a pile of them out on the table with a sign that reads "$2 each" and he claims he can raise almost $100 over two days.

Longacre

We should all be trying to reduce our carbon footprint.


In this thread, your very own Longacre took part in a march in Perth, Australia to help save the climate.

BobSav

If I don't stop hearing about going green this and going green that, I think I"m GOING TO SCREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just my 2 cents.

Bob

ponderit

You can scream all you want, just try to minimize the methane release on the other end... I know I've cut back

Edited to add: I do recycle everything I can

ricko

As the ludicrous 'global warming' hoax falls apart (and it is a hoax), we should always remember to be good stewards of the environment. Cheers, RickO

LindeDad

Don't they fit in the bin on the end that says "Plasitics".
It's right beside the one that says "Paper Products".

dbldie55

My goal is to have the same carbon footprint as gore. I have a long way to go. I am sure it would take well over a year to have the same amount as gore has in a week.

lusterlover

It appears the older green (color) PCGS boxes are desireable/collectible. Con someone confirm this. What do they go for?

Gemineye

<< <i>My goal is to have the same carbon footprint as gore. I have a long way to go. I am sure it would take well over a year to have the same amount as gore has in a week. >>


He is doing the best that he can by flying around the country consuming as many cheesburgers and steaks as he can....he knows full well the cattle are the culprits emitting all their gaseous waste poluting our planet...He will save us all...!!!..
I hear that he's about to build an ...Ark..!!!!....

droopyd

<< <i>my first thought was show me an image of this supposed "mass"--but later in the article they explain that it is "invisible".... >>



Now we know what you are thinking, because the first thing that came to our mind when we heard about its size (Uhh, Texas?) is, “Why the heck haven’t we been spying on this land from space, in the comfort of our satellites?” Good question, my friend, and here’s the answer: The incredible mash of garbage is actually more like a soup, half floating, half sunken, consisting of 80 percent plastics and has been said to weigh up to 3.5 million tons.



Cynthia Vanderlip, manager of the State of Hawaii’s Kure Atoll Wildlife Sanctuary, cut open the dead body of a fledgling Laysan albatross (nicknamed “Shed Bird”) to find more than half a pound of plastic in its stomach. Concentrated on the right are all the items retrieved from inside the bird: Plastic lighters, bottle caps, and other plastics that are carelessly tossed often wind up floating on the ocean surface, where they are occasionally consumed by foraging seabirds and other marine creatures.

StubbyMcNumbthumbs

<< <i>As the ludicrous 'global warming' hoax falls apart (and it is a hoax), we should always remember to be good stewards of the environment. Cheers, RickO >>




I agree. I save and reuse wherever possible. Not because I think the planet needs saving, just because it makes good sense.



On the other hand, I think I might start a campaign to go the "planet savers" one better.

I'm going to save the entire universe!!! Why stop at just our planet?

TwoSides2aCoin

Why aren't PCGS boxes green ?
CAC stickers would have been camoflaged and harder to see

melvin289

I have bought some from a member of the board once or maybe he sent them to me for shipping cost. My coin dealer sent me some once for no cost to me. I love the PCGS boxes. I just don't have enough of them filled.

Ron

Type2

I know a Co. That will buy them by the LB if you can get a 10 to 20 yard bin of them.

SUMORADA

I think they should start labeling the tops of half of the ones they produce to"GENUINE" instead of pcgs....that way we will know where half of our coins are..........

Swampboy

<< <i>It appears the older green (color) PCGS boxes are desireable/collectible. Con someone confirm this. What do they go for? >>







They go for $23.50 each shipped to your door. Minimum order is two and I accept Paypal.




























Gotcha.
I wouldn't part with my two. Thanks Wei.

PLE

Why aren't PCGS boxes green?

Here is PCGS's side of this story.

Today's PCGS box is full-blue and is guaranteed to match the beautiful color of the insert on all PCGS slabs. Millions of dollars were spent guaranteeing the full blue color of all PCGS boxes. Unforutnately, exposure to humidity causes the plastic to lose its natural blue beauty. It really hasn't been fair to make PCGS replace boxes whose color might have changed because the collector lives in high humidity places like Florida and Hawaii. As a result, starting January 1, PCGS will no longer guarantee that the full-blue color of its plastic boxes. For collectors who owned PCGS boxes prior to January 1, PCGS will continue to replace the plastic box if it no longer is full-blue, provided the collector can provide proof of the date of ownership of the box. If the box is sold after January 1, however, PCGS will no longer guarantee full-blue.

leothelyon

<< <i>NGC uses cardboard and it works just fine. And the NGC boxes are easier to re-use, because they fit both PCGS and NGC slabs. >>



BELIEVE IT OR NOT, but I have 3 NGC boxes where their own slabs don't fit. Imagine that, having a NGC box and a mess of overgraded nGC graded MS67 coins and the lid doesn't fit. Not that this surprises me a bit since it's coming from NgC but, COME ON, how many folks are out there that got stuck with these boxes.

Leo

oreville

The PCGS green or blue boxes are excellent for storing BU rolls (from cents to quarters).

The older NGC boxes are not as sturdy as the PCGS boxes for this purpose.

BAJJERFAN

<< <i>Why aren't PCGS boxes green?

Here is PCGS's side of this story.

Today's PCGS box is full-blue and is guaranteed to match the beautiful color of the insert on all PCGS slabs. Millions of dollars were spent guaranteeing the full blue color of all PCGS boxes. Unforutnately, exposure to humidity causes the plastic to lose its natural blue beauty. It really hasn't been fair to make PCGS replace boxes whose color might have changed because the collector lives in high humidity places like Florida and Hawaii. As a result, starting January 1, PCGS will no longer guarantee that the full-blue color of its plastic boxes. For collectors who owned PCGS boxes prior to January 1, PCGS will continue to replace the plastic box if it no longer is full-blue, provided the collector can provide proof of the date of ownership of the box. If the box is sold after January 1, however, PCGS will no longer guarantee full-blue. >>



What a pathetic waste of money.

Type2

<< <i>Why aren't PCGS boxes green?

Here is PCGS's side of this story.

Today's PCGS box is full-blue and is guaranteed to match the beautiful color of the insert on all PCGS slabs. Millions of dollars were spent guaranteeing the full blue color of all PCGS boxes. Unforutnately, exposure to humidity causes the plastic to lose its natural blue beauty. It really hasn't been fair to make PCGS replace boxes whose color might have changed because the collector lives in high humidity places like Florida and Hawaii. As a result, starting January 1, PCGS will no longer guarantee that the full-blue color of its plastic boxes. For collectors who owned PCGS boxes prior to January 1, PCGS will continue to replace the plastic box if it no longer is full-blue, provided the collector can provide proof of the date of ownership of the box. If the box is sold after January 1, however, PCGS will no longer guarantee full-blue. >>
























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lunytune2

My local dealer gives them away at christmas .

notwilight

I sell them on ebay by the hundreds--usually at open bid so I can't feel bad about charging for them.

As for recycling, I always ship in reused boxes that I get from the mint or bring home from my day job.

--Jerry

lcoopie

instead of throwing them out in the regular garbage

throw them in the recycling bin
use them for something else
give them away

it's the person, not the object that is green

RYK

<< <i>I save and reuse all of them for shipping. Except for the one my son uses to store Legos. >>



Yeah, and then I have to throw them out.

I agree with the OP. They should be recyclable.

BTW, what's the going rate for OGBs? I think I have one or two around.

IGWT

Cynthia Vanderlip, manager of the State of Hawaii’s Kure Atoll Wildlife Sanctuary, cut open the dead body of a fledgling Laysan albatross (nicknamed “Shed Bird”) to find more than half a pound of plastic in its stomach. Concentrated on the right are all the items retrieved from inside the bird: Plastic lighters, bottle caps, and other plastics that are carelessly tossed often wind up floating on the ocean surface, where they are occasionally consumed by foraging seabirds and other marine creatures.



It looks like we could clean up the ocean by deploying a few more of those birds.