1979 OPC O-PEE-CHEE WAYNE GRETZKY # 18 RC REPRINT
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Oh wait. I thought they were counterfeits?
Soooo why aren't they stamped?
And thought there was only three left?
Oh well. Happy Holidays.
Oh wait. I thought they were counterfeits?
Soooo why aren't they stamped?
And thought there was only three left?
Oh well. Happy Holidays.
Jeff
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<< <i>Thats not Patrick selling those onEbay. Somebody else. >>
Sorry but you are incorrect.
Jeff
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<< <i>Reprint My Bottom >>
no thanks. don't even want the original.
<< <i>That's me, I pulled the auction, so now what do I do with them? >>
send me one
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<< <i>That's me, I pulled the auction, so now what do I do with them? >>
send me one
PM and I'll send one
<< <i>........so now what do I do with them? >>
Unfortunately the correct answer to that question will get whoever writes it banned.
<< <i>That's me, I pulled the auction, so now what do I do with them? >>
You only pulled the auction because of this thread.
I didn't make these.
I only have a few stamped ones left (3) but have a lot that are not stamped.
The unstamped ones I purchased from someone online in 2005 and was intending to use them as set fillers for raw sets, disclosing obviously to the buyer that they are not real.
If you look at listings which have ended you will find that there is a market for these. There are also others listed on eBay right now.
Most of the people on this message board are ass holes. Your hobby is not that of sports cards and memorabilia, but rather the online message boards.
Later - I'm out for good, making plenty happy.
Patrick
<< <i>Most of the people on this message board are ass holes. Your hobby is not that of sports cards and memorabilia, but rather the online message boards.
Later - I'm out for good, making plenty happy.
>>
And you will be back under yet another alt ID
<< <i>I called eBay the other night and asked about the "reprint/counterfeits" and explained that there was one graded by PSA (the signed card). The woman said there is a place to mark it as "reprint" in the listing.
I didn't make these.
I only have a few stamped ones left (3) but have a lot that are not stamped.
The unstamped ones I purchased from someone online in 2005 and was intending to use them as set fillers for raw sets, disclosing obviously to the buyer that they are not real.
If you look at listings which have ended you will find that there is a market for these. There are also others listed on eBay right now.
Most of the people on this message board are ass holes. Your hobby is not that of sports cards and memorabilia, but rather the online message boards.
Later - I'm out for good, making plenty happy.
Patrick >>
Sorry this happened to you. NOT!!
Jeff
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You posted almost word for word what you sent o me in a PM but you left this part out
I'm asking that you please take the post off you started. I'm just trying to get rid of some cards I have sitting here without throwing them in the garbage.
Jeff
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Jeff
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I do like the message board here, and do not want to leave as it is nice to talk about our collections and put together group rips, but what I can't stand is the few people who hover over my personal eBay account and my messages here...searching for anything to use against me.
barfvader, I brought up before what people thought about me sending the cards to a knockoff company for grading. The issue is now dead. You bring up something outside of the message board to cause trouble here.
Point of the matter is this: I did not make these. I do not know their manufacturing history. I amnot aware of them being counterfeits other than from the opinion of a few here.
I do know this:
PSA recognized this as a reprint. PSA Graded Gretzky on eBay
and
These are my property and what I do with them is none of your business.
Jeff
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Patrick what you need to do is stamp each one on the back as a reprint or counterfeit.
then who ever buys them will know exactly what he is getting and no devious person can try to sell it as an original.
This really is a non issue if handled properly, unless of course I am missing something?
Steve
<< <i>Point of the matter is this: I did not make these. I do not know their manufacturing history. I amnot aware of them being counterfeits other than from the opinion of a few here.
These are my property and what I do with them is none of your business. >>
You sure about not knowing they are counterfeits?
Your PM to me says otherwise I know these are counterfeits but I didn't make them. (Got a screencap of that and YOU CAN"T EDIT that)
You really should just stop because your digging the hole deeper.
And you are right they are your counterfeits and if you want to sell them off to the unsuspecting, well you feel free to do that.
Jeff
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<< <i>These are my property and what I do with them is none of your business. >>
Really? You may want to speak with your other personality that asked this:
<< <i>That's me, I pulled the auction, so now what do I do with them? >>
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<< <i>Why can't he sell them on ebay as reprints?
Patrick what you need to do is stamp each one on the back as a reprint or counterfeit.
then who ever buys them will know exactly what he is getting and no devious person can try to sell it as an original.
This really is a non issue if handled properly, unless of course I am missing something?
Steve >>
He mentioned before in stamping them but he knows full well the supposed value of these counterfeits drops substantially when that is done.
Jeff
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I dunno I'm at a loss with this one, to me it goes without saying If I owned these cards I;d simply
stamp them Copy, reprint, or counterfeit and start them at 9.99 and see what happens.
Geez is money that big of an issue with an item you know is crap?
Steve
That tells me that he could sell them rather easily on ebay stamped.
How much does he think these cards are worth?
Steve
<< <i>That is 2 people just in this very thread that would take one.
That tells me that he could sell them rather easily on ebay stamped.
How much does he think these cards are worth?
Steve >>
He's mentioned before around $50.
Jeff
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Pete Rose has a counterfeit that back in the day people wanted it as part of the collection.
Just saying.............
Steve
You really disappoint me. The earlier thread where you talked about getting these graded by a fake third party grader supposedly ended with you realizing these were counterfeits, you editing out all of your original responses, and then other board members saying you learned your lesson. You even posted the same to me in a PM....
Well here you go again trying to sell this garbage on eBay and you try to justify it because PSA/DNA authenticated an autograph on a counterfeit. PSA/DNA does not care what medium an auto is on and a counterfeit card it treated like a cut signature or an index card, a theory you cannot grasp.
Furthermore as we dug deeper into your posting history is turned out you tried to pass these off at an earlier date as well.
It is time for you to move on. If a board member is caught up in a scam it will not soon be forgotten, especially those who did not learn their lesson the first time.
<< <i>Patrick,
You really disappoint me. The earlier thread where you talked about getting these graded by a fake third party grader supposedly ended with you realizing these were counterfeits, you editing out all of your original responses, and then other board members saying you learned your lesson. You even posted the same to me in a PM....
Well here you go again trying to sell this garbage on eBay and you try to justify it because PSA/DNA authenticated an autograph on a counterfeit. PSA/DNA does not care what medium an auto is on and a counterfeit card it treated like a cut signature or an index card, a theory you cannot grasp.
Furthermore as we dug deeper into your posting history is turned out you tried to pass these off at an earlier date as well.
It is time for you to move on. If a board member is caught up in a scam it will not soon be forgotten, especially those who did not learn their lesson the first time. >>
DrJ,
PSA says the card is a "Reprint" while some members here say it is a "Counterfeit". All I know is that they are not real and whatever lingo I tag onto these cards from post to post, or pm to pm, is talored to the individual in order to prevent a lecture on their opinion.
I'm not "passing" these off as real Gretzky rookies and do not "scam" people, therefore I cannot be caught up in one.
Patrick
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<< <i>That is 2 people just in this very thread that would take one.
That tells me that he could sell them rather easily on ebay stamped.
How much does he think these cards are worth?
Steve >>
He's mentioned before around $50. >>
these are a $3 novelty item at my card shows, jordan, orr, etc...
<< <i>Patrick,
Well here you go again trying to sell this garbage on eBay and you try to justify it because PSA/DNA authenticated an autograph on a counterfeit. PSA/DNA does not care what medium an auto is on and a counterfeit card it treated like a cut signature or an index card, a theory you cannot grasp.
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He is saying, that on the PSA/DNA item, it is noted as "1979 Topps Reprint". If it was a COUNTERFEIT, it would be noted as COUNTERFEIT card or some other notation, not reprint. If it was an index card they would write "Index card". Since PSA says that that card is a reprint, he thinks (as he rightfully should) that the card is a reprint.
He's not passing them off as legit. This is a non issue.
How many times are we going to revisit this?
Patrick has demonstrated his mettle and notes have been taken. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions, present alternatives, suggest alibis or convolute the story any way they wish...
<< <i>Yawn . . .
How many times are we going to revisit this?
Patrick has demonstrated his mettle and notes have been taken. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions, present alternatives, suggest alibis or convolute the story any way they wish... >>
I think you have to ask Patrick that. He is the one making regular posts pertaining to these counterfeits. It really is getting old and it is time for him to move on.
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<< <i>Yawn . . .
How many times are we going to revisit this?
Patrick has demonstrated his mettle and notes have been taken. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions, present alternatives, suggest alibis or convolute the story any way they wish... >>
I think you have to ask Patrick that. He is the one making regular posts pertaining to these counterfeits. It really is getting old and it is time for him to move on. >>
wrong, once again.
<< <i>this thread was created by barfvader over an issue that was not only dead, but off the forum on another site. barfvader brought this to the message board, again, today. >>
Mettle...
<< <i>this thread was created by barfvader over an issue that was not only dead, but off the forum on another site. barfvader brought this to the message board, again, today. >>
Convoluted...
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<< <i>this thread was created by barfvader over an issue that was not only dead, but off the forum on another site. barfvader brought this to the message board, again, today. >>
Convoluted... >>
All counterfeits are reprints, but not all reprints are counterfeits.
Whoever holds the intellectual property rights can make authorized reprints. [I don't know whether Topps, OPC, or Upper Deck has them, or whether the original contract with Gretzky requires his consent to reprint.]
Anyone else's reprints are unauthorized, likely violate the intellectual property holder's rights, and are considered counterfeits if they appear to be originals.
Lots of old (pre-WWII) cards are not protected by intellectual property rights any more. You don't need anyone's authorization to reprint them, BUT they're still considered counterfeits if they appear to be originals.
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<< <i>I will take one of those spare counterfeits you have. One without the reprint stamp please.
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Is this finally a REAL alt? lol
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<< <i>I will take one of those spare counterfeits you have. One without the reprint stamp please.
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Is this finally a REAL alt? lol >>
No doubt about it. Here are some questions for the CU staff - when are you going to do something about Justin? How long are you going to continue to let him register and then stalk the board's members? When will you say enough is enough with this guy?
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<< <i>Hmm, it's been 5 years. Surely they've all forgotten by now, right?
Wrong.
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