OK- I'm a bit stupid, but

MORGANHUNTER2

since when is it legal to charge a tax on a membership to a club- such as PCGS?

I decided to renew my long lost subscription (silver) and was charged $3.32 in tax? I do not live in California, and NEVER heard of anyone charging a tax to join a "club".

Can anyone show me where in the hell this is acceptable?

I know I had never paid a tax on previous applications, here or ATS.

Smoeone enlighten me on this one..

TorinoCobra71

Only people from texASS dont get it..............

























TorinoCobra71

MORGANHUNTER2

<< <i>Only people from texASS dont get it..............


and po hoosiers need to pick up the damn phone when a Texass calls you..

gators suck..




























TorinoCobra71 >>

Type2

Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS.

MORGANHUNTER2

<< <i>Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS. >>



I do not live in california, therefore no tax may be applied to a membership, this is not a purchase from KMart!

and did not know that PCGS has a recipriocal agreement with the State of Texas!

notwilight

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<< <i>Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS. >>



I do not live in california, therefore no tax may be applied to a membership, this is not a purchase from KMart!

and did not know that PCGS has a recipriocal agreement with the State of Texas! >>



Usually a company collecting tax in your state has an outlet in your state. I know heritage now collects tax in CA. PCGS would be sending the tax money to TX and I"m sure they are trying to follow TX law...it is not fun for the seller to comply with sales tax laws. --Jerry

lkeigwin

Sales tax laws are some of the most convoluted, illogical ones we have. In state vs out of state, eat in or to go, carbonated soda or fruit drink. The examples are endless.

From wikipedia, on California sales tax:
"In grocery stores, unprepared food items are not taxed but vitamins and all other items are. Ready-to-eat hot foods, whether sold by supermarkets or other vendors, are taxed. Restaurant bills are taxed. As an exception, hot beverages and bakery items are tax-exempt if and only if they are for take-out and are not sold with any other hot food. If consumed on the seller's premises, such items are taxed like restaurant meals. All other food is exempt from sales tax.

Also excluded are food animals (livestock), food plants and seeds, fertilizer used to grow food, prescription drugs and certain medical supplies, energy utilities, certain alternative energy devices and supplies, art for display by public agencies, and veterans' pins. There are many specific exemptions for various veterans', non-profit, educational, religious, and youth organizations. Sale of items to certain out-of-state or national entities (mostly transportation companies) is exempt, as are some goods sold while in transit through California to a foreign destination.

Occasional or one-time sales not part of a regular business are exempt, except that sales of three or more non-food animals (puppies, kittens, etc.) per year are taxed..."

What a crock of nonsense.

I don't know whether PCGS is right or wrong but if I had to guess I'd bet they are doing the correct thing.
Lance.

MORGANHUNTER2

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<< <i>Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS. >>



I do not live in california, therefore no tax may be applied to a membership, this is not a purchase from KMart!

and did not know that PCGS has a recipriocal agreement with the State of Texas! >>



Usually a company collecting tax in your state has an outlet in your state. I know heritage now collects tax in CA. PCGS would be sending the tax money to TX and I"m sure they are trying to follow TX law...it is not fun for the seller to comply with sales tax laws. --Jerry >>



But Heritage has an office in Cali, so that would be acceptable.

This is a membership to join the CU, ya know- to do submissions, look at pop reports and all that jazz.

smoething is not right in Newport. I'll just claim PCGS on my tax report at the end of the year I guess!

Swampboy

FWIW on 9/21/09 I was charged $0.00 tax on my membership order and I'm in Washington State.

Dropdaflag

<< <i>Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS. >>



That is not true in all states.

"Some services are also subject to sales tax in Mississippi, as listed in Section 27-65-23 of the Mississippi Code. Examples of taxable services include software sales and service, repairs of tangible personal property, and renting or leasing tangible personal property."

soty27

I reupped on 9/26/09 and was charged $0.00 tax in Wisconsin

notwilight

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<< <i>Labor is not taxable but if you rec a item you can get taxed. It SUCKS. >>



I do not live in california, therefore no tax may be applied to a membership, this is not a purchase from KMart!

and did not know that PCGS has a recipriocal agreement with the State of Texas! >>



Usually a company collecting tax in your state has an outlet in your state. I know heritage now collects tax in CA. PCGS would be sending the tax money to TX and I"m sure they are trying to follow TX law...it is not fun for the seller to comply with sales tax laws. --Jerry >>



But Heritage has an office in Cali, so that would be acceptable.

This is a membership to join the CU, ya know- to do submissions, look at pop reports and all that jazz.

smoething is not right in Newport. I'll just claim PCGS on my tax report at the end of the year I guess! >>



My point is that I think you should be calling Austin rather than Newport....let us know what you find out. --Jerry

adamlaneus

I purchased some PCGS memberships in early October. I'm from California. No sales tax was charged.

I wonder if somehow there is a reciprocal agreement in effect _AND_ Texas laws are different than California. Or maybe this is a new thing recently?

California is getting very 'taxy' and perhaps it is spreading.

ponderit

Not taxed in the membership in Ohio... weird, seems like we're taxed on everything in Ohio

Peaceman

You're complaining about three bucks? O, nevermind, I read the thread description again.

19Lyds

<< <i>I don't know whether PCGS is right or wrong but if I had to guess I'd bet they are doing the correct thing.
Lance. >>



Right and Wrong don't always correlate with correct!

19Lyds

which reminds me I need to renew by March.

BTW, I wonder if PCGS will be running another end-of-year Membership Special like they did last year??

I reupped twice just for the free grades!

PQType

In New Hampshire we have no sales tax. Anything we buy while we are in our state or online from any other state is tax free.

But they do really nail us in NH for property taxes.

ksteelheader

<< <i>OK- I'm a bit stupid >>



Don't forget the old part!!

ricko

The states and the feds are going to keep pushing this tax BS until they find themselves at the point of rebellion. We already work until May to pay the totality of taxes imposed upon us. This is ridiculous and it will get worse. Unfortunately, everything the government does is at the point of a gun (doubt it? Try not doing it.). There is a breaking point... just do not know when it will be... Cheers, RickO

Halfhunter06

all dependson the state you live in

ProofArtworkonCircs

In Massachusetts, auto repair folk charge 5% of labor for miscellaneous materials such as rags. There is a sales tax on that 5%.

Bear

Just a slight correction. One can not be a bit stupid

and be a member of this Forum. One has to be a lot

stupid, in order to be a fully participating member.

lathmach

<< <i>Just a slight correction. One can not be a bit stupid

and be a member of this Forum. One has to be a lot

stupid, in order to be a fully participating member. >>




MORGANHUNTER2 is a lot stupid, so the thread is still all good.

Ray

SportsModerator2

Texas charges taxes on the memberships and since we have nexus in TX we have to charge it and pay it.
They don't classify it as a service such as grading coins.

TX and CA are charged sales taxes on items.

Carol

Barndog

this is the #1 reason why I moved from Texas to NH

19Lyds

<< <i>In Massachusetts, auto repair folk charge 5% of labor for miscellaneous materials such as rags. There is a sales tax on that 5%. >>



I think this is standard industry practice Herb!~

The rags that is.

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>...and since we have nexus in TX >>

Nexus in Texas? Isn't that the title of a C/W song? If not, it probably should be...

skeeterhawk

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<< <i>...and since we have nexus in TX >>

Nexus in Texas? Isn't that the title of a C/W song? If not, it probably should be... >>



A hit song by Gearge Strait from a few years ago............ALL MY NEXUS LIVE IN TEXAS..........

MORGANHUNTER2

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<< <i>Just a slight correction. One can not be a bit stupid

and be a member of this Forum. One has to be a lot

stupid, in order to be a fully participating member. >>




MORGANHUNTER2 is a lot stupid, so the thread is still all good.

Ray >>



Ray- your usage of the english language has me in a fervor. I have never seen the term ' a lot stupid ' used in such context.

I'm now confused as to what a "nexus" is?

MORGANHUNTER2

Well here's an update for ya. Noah (in customer service) tells me that because PCGS has employees working in Texas they have to charge a tax to my membership! Well now I can write off the membership, but will need their tax ID so I can pass this on to my tax man at the end of the year.

I belong to 9 organizations of which 3 are based in Texas and pay a membership to each one, and not one has a tax added to it, and no they are not a 5c organization (non profit).

So I need to enlighten my tax man of another membership that I will be allowed to write off this year.

I wonder if I will be taxed on sending in submissions to them in California!

Maybe, just maybe I can send my submissions to the employees here in Texas and cut down the delivery time it takes to get them back!!

That's the ticket!!!!

BaronVonBaugh

So where is this office in Texas? Can we drop off and pickup there? If not, why not?
If we have to pay taxes because you have an office here It should be doing some work for us!

MORGANHUNTER2

<< <i>So where is this office in Texas? Can we drop off and pickup there? If not, why not?
If we have to pay taxes because you have an office here It should be doing some work for us! >>



I absolutely agree.