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Capped Bust Half Experts Needed: 1807 50/20 Half PCGS F12 - Is the 13th star tooled?

I'm posting this coin with the permission of the current owner, and we'd like to know if the 13th star has been tooled.

Every other star is worn flat, and yet the 13th star still has visible lines remaining.

Did PCGS miss it big time on this one, or is it possible to have detail left on the star in this grade?

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  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about an opinion from a non expert.

    If you look on coinzip:
    http://coinzip.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=1807b&action=display&thread=526

    There are 3 or 4 that look identical with flat stars and a lined 13th star.

    On the higher detailed ones the 13th star also looks more detailed.

    So I would conclude she is NOT tooled
  • Hm, I see that now

    What would cause just one star, specifically the 13th one, to remain outlined?
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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whether it is tooled or not I can't tell from a picture but it is definately possible to have a well-struck star when all of the others are weak.

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  • << <i>Why would anyone tool only one star? >>



    Practice? I don't know.
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    very pretty half, look at pictures of others in this date and see if they also have the 13th star that is more detailed.
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would anyone tool only one star? >>



    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Doesn't make sense only one star is tooled.
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  • QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    Star 13 was not punched as deeply as the other stars were. Therefore it took much less striking pressure to push the metal up into the die at that point, thus the greater detail.

    Remember that each of the stars were individually punched into the working die at this time period. Consequently each star may have been punched more or less deeply into the die surface.

    Such are the peculiarities and the charm of the early Bust Coinage!

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