Another New Purchase: Large Silver Coin: 1800 Bust Dime

Barndog

OK, dimes are not "large silver coins" to most people, but since I collect their smaller sisters (half dimes) this is a large coin for me. I don't collect bust dimes. I can't really say why I bought this coin other than when I saw it I thought that it was a really nice coin that did its job in commerce in early America and somehow survived in what numismatists call "problem-free condition." So it was totally an impulse buy. Those who collect early dimes will look up the die marriage, so maybe they can chime in with thoughts on die marriage and rarity (I already know the die marriage and rarity, so this is not a fishing expedition). I feel this coin is PQ for grade too. I won't post the grade until people have the chance to offer opinions that may or may not differ from mine.

SilverEagles92

Looks damaged

(that was for Shane)

STONE

So you were the one who snatched that up!
It would have been a replacement for my holed (and cleaned) specimen if I got to it before you.

Nevertheless congrats are in order.
I already know the variety, rarity, etc. as it is the same as the example I have, so I'll let someone who needs more experience look it up.

BillJones

It has a strong date and decent reverse, but given the wear on the stars, I would still only be able to give it an AG-3. Maybe it rates a star (*) for the grade, but they only do that across the street.

kryptonitecomics

It has an amazing reverse for the grade....the weak strike on the obverse held the coin back overall but considering how rare these coins are I think it makes a nice addition to most sets....if your not an MS snob....

STONE

<< <i>It has an amazing reverse for the grade....the weak strike on the obverse held the coin back overall >>


The nicer reverses showing more detail than the obverse are fairly common for lower grade (Fine and lower) Draped Bust Dimes.
The obverse for this variety isn't common with a weak strike, rather I feel the different in relief is the reason for the remaining detail

kryptonitecomics

<< <i>

<< <i>It has an amazing reverse for the grade....the weak strike on the obverse held the coin back overall >>


The nicer reverses showing more detail than the obverse are fairly common for lower grade (Fine and lower) Draped Bust Dimes.
The obverse for this variety isn't common with a weak strike, rather I feel the different in relief is the reason for the remaining detail >>



That could certainly be the case but I showed it to a few experts and they mentioned weak strike?

Moldnut

Love the dime Barndog! Ill say its AG3. Ill have to post the 1802 10c pcgs F2 I bought from Brian Greer last weekend!

Barndog

<< <i>Love the dime Barndog! Ill say its AG3. Ill have to post the 1802 10c pcgs F2 I bought from Brian Greer last weekend! >>



congrats on your purchase, look forward to pics.

Moldnut

Thanks! If they gave yours a Fair2 grade I sure hope mine looks that good. We might have to wait a week or so to post mine as Brian ships registered mail!

Cladiator

Nice double half dime!

STONE

<< <i>Nice double half dime! >>


Does that mean that he could trade it for 2 1800 Half-Dimes

MikeInFL

Probably an AG-3 wear-wise, I'd bump it to G4 based on the eye appeal.

Excellent coin & thanks for sharing...Mike

seateddime

those are some of the finest coins on the planet

Barndog

for those interested in what PCGS thought:



There are two die marriages for 1800 bust dimes: JR-1 (R4) and JR-2 (R5). This is the scarcer of the two. Reported mintage is 21,760. The authors of "Early United States Dimes 1796-1837" state that of all 1800 dimes seen, only forty percent are the JR-2. A total of 67 dimes from 1800 are in the PCGS population report.

STONE

Barndog, thank you for posting the results of your NewP.
It is my best understanding that despite the current rarity of JR-1 being an R4 and JR-2 being an R5, since it was noted in 1980 (or whenever the Dime book was published), and subsequently has not changed since, that a better guage of the rarity of each variety is that JR-2 should also be an R4, but that JR-1 a more common R4. I suggest this from doing a week long search of as many different 1800 JR-2's and finding more than 40 examples. I would not doubt that 30 more could be found hidden away in collections if given enough time, patience, and cataloging ability.

I would also note that between the two varieties, there is very little premium for the JR-2 over the JR-1, unless assuming Top Pop or near Top Pop examples.

Just thought I'd share this. If anyone else would like to chime in or challenge this I would be all ears

kaz

Very nice, Barndog! An educational thread, as usual.

Billet7

You beat me to that one. I really liked it as well.

zap1111

Thanks for education, Barndog. Nice grab!
zap

DIMEMAN

Nice coin. At one time I had both varieties in nice original Fine. Sold them both!

BillJones

<< <i>

<< <i>It has an amazing reverse for the grade....the weak strike on the obverse held the coin back overall >>


The nicer reverses showing more detail than the obverse are fairly common for lower grade (Fine and lower) Draped Bust Dimes.
The obverse for this variety isn't common with a weak strike, rather I feel the different in relief is the reason for the remaining detail >>



This is true of most all early U.S. coins. A number of my AU graded coins have a reverse that could be graded Mint State, but the obverse pulls it down to the AU level.