Where can you get those fold-up boxes like the USPS gives away, but plain?
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I can't help but think about those $4 boxes we buy each time we mail a coin in one of those, just because they're convenient. Where can you get the same quality fold up boxes, like those small cassette tape boxes the USPS gives away for Priority mail, only plain so you can use them for 1st class? Every box supplier I look at seems to stock cheapo boxes or ones you have to use tape on.
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Use padded envelopes for first class.
--Jerry
<< <i>The usps got tired of people stealing priority mail boxes and turning them wrong side out so they didn't have to pay priority mail rates so they now stamp "priority mail" a gillion times on the inside.
Use padded envelopes for first class.
--Jerry >>
Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago where many people, but not all, thought padded envelopes were cheap looking and crappy? I use the padded bubble envelopes all the time on smaller orders and have never had a complaint, yet.
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<< <i>The usps got tired of people stealing priority mail boxes and turning them wrong side out so they didn't have to pay priority mail rates so they now stamp "priority mail" a gillion times on the inside.
Use padded envelopes for first class.
--Jerry >>
Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago where many people, but not all, thought padded envelopes were cheap looking and crappy? I use the padded bubble envelopes all the time on smaller orders and have never had a complaint, yet. >>
People complaining about how the packing material looks? Sheesh.
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<< <i>The usps got tired of people stealing priority mail boxes and turning them wrong side out so they didn't have to pay priority mail rates so they now stamp "priority mail" a gillion times on the inside.
Use padded envelopes for first class.
--Jerry >>
Wasn't there a thread a few weeks ago where many people, but not all, thought padded envelopes were cheap looking and crappy? I use the padded bubble envelopes all the time on smaller orders and have never had a complaint, yet. >>
I buy them by the 1000s and my feedback often says "well packaged". --Jerry
<< <i>A padded envelope isn't acceptable for a $2000 coin... >>
But you'll send it first class?
Spend the extra $3 and put it in a Priority Mail Flat Rate box.
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<< <i>I can't help but think about those $4 boxes we buy each time we mail a coin in one of those, just because they're convenient. Where can you get the same quality fold up boxes, like those small cassette tape boxes the USPS gives away for Priority mail, only plain so you can use them for 1st class? Every box supplier I look at seems to stock cheapo boxes or ones you have to use tape on. >>
I don't know the boxes you're referring to, but for $4.90 you can get a flat rate priority mail box, so why would you pay $4 for just a box?
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<< <i>A padded envelope isn't acceptable for a $2000 coin... >>
I use padded envelopes inside of flat rate envelopes for up to $5000 coins sent express. If you feel it isn't acceptable you should tell the seller before he ships it rather than afterward. we are always willing to take care of unusual requests. --Jerry
I am not a fan of padded envelopes at all and don't use envelopes in general except to mail pennies. If I need to mail something parcel post or first class, I use the priority boxes and cover them with brown paper. I don't feel too bad because I am using them for USPS mailings and I am kind of paying for them in their added weight. I take them all into the post office with my other mailings and the clerks don't mind.
If you get caught the PO will charge the recipient the priority rate.
The clerks don't mind because they don't have xray vision.
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Steve
<< <i>A padded envelope isn't acceptable for a $2000 coin... >>
Of course not. When I said small order, I mean low dollar and low number of coins. Any certified coin (in a pcgs holder, etc) almost always goes in a box.
<< <i>I want to know where everyone gets the cardboard flips that seal shut and hold the graded coins in for shipping. >>
They are available from coin supply houses. I use small padded envelopes instead because they cost the same, have more padding, I already have them in stock, and it's one less think I have to reorder. --Jerry
edit: also I don't care for the glue on the surface of the slab and the padded envelopes are easier to open.
<< <i>I want to know where everyone gets the cardboard flips that seal shut and hold the graded coins in for shipping. >>
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<< <i>If you get caught the PO will charge the recipient the priority rate.
The clerks don't mind because they don't have xray vision. >>
What he said. There's no way to know when a postal worker somewhere along the line will figure out that your wrapped box is actually a PM box, and it will arrive postage due. Whether or not the clerks at your post office mind won't help much then.
<< <i>Don't know if they have those specific ones but Uline.com has an unbelievably huge selection of boxes, and prices are good. >>
.......absolutely right! i've used them for a long time. they're an excellent company to deal with and they have great prices.
<< <i>A $2,000 coin would go first class, Registered.....in a box...definitely not in an envelope. >>
Please alert the seller if you don't want it sent in an envelope. I send, and receive from very respected dealers, expensive coins in envelopes all the time. I know one extremenely respected and beloved dealer on this board who sends extremely expensive coins in envelopes, taped up, and registered first class. --Jerry
<< <i>Even with registered mail, what's wrong with using an envelope & Safe-T-Mailer to send a coin in a flip? >>
I believe the PO requires Registered Mail to be in a box that is covered with reinforced packaging tape.
<< <i>Even with registered mail, what's wrong with using an envelope & Safe-T-Mailer to send a coin in a flip? >>
I've done that plenty of times for coins in 2x2's or slabs, even with coins worth 5 figures. Never a problem.
<< <i>I believe the PO requires Registered Mail to be in a box that is covered with reinforced packaging tape. >>
No- you can use envelopes (with the tape). I've sent two in the past month like this.
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<< <i>Even with registered mail, what's wrong with using an envelope & Safe-T-Mailer to send a coin in a flip? >>
I believe the PO requires Registered Mail to be in a box that is covered with reinforced packaging tape. >>
Registered can be a paper/cardboard (no tyvek) envelope, just can't be a padded envelope. Post office has to be able to hand stamp all the seams covered by the required brown paper tape. You can also send registered at flat rate priority, just have to seal the flat rate box seams properly.
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<< <i>It's not the padding that they object to, it's the seams. Everything has to be paper and glue. No heat sealing which they feel can be tampered with, and no Tyvek. Interestingly, you can use bubble mailers for International Registered - the rules are different. >>
Exactly. I have gotten several expensive coins in 2x2's sent registered in a normal white envelope, in a safe-t-mailer, with one strip of paper tap across the seams on the reverse. I'm sure other collectors here have too since a lot of dealers that have been doing this a long time use that method. --Jerry
<< <i>Please alert the seller if you don't want it sent in an envelope. I send, and receive from very respected dealers, expensive coins in envelopes all the time. I know one extremenely respected and beloved dealer on this board who sends extremely expensive coins in envelopes, taped up, and registered first class. --Jerry >>
What he said. I've used bubble mailers for coins as high as $5,000 for years. Of course I first put the coin or slab in a smaller bubble bag wrapped around itself 2-3 times and then put that inside a bubble mailer (poly, not paper), and have had nothing but compliments on my packaging.
<< <i>Registered can be a paper/cardboard (no tyvek) envelope, just can't be a padded envelope. Post office has to be able to hand stamp all the seams covered by the required brown paper tape. >>
I send things Registered Mail in bubble mailers all the time... I put the bubble mailer inside a brown paper clasp envelope first. Never a single problem.
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Mason box company has some neat boxes designed for registered mail in various sizes. According to the salesman it's a 2 piece box and you only have to wet and seal the four flaps. I've got a few samples on the way to try out:
Universal sealing flap boxes
The MB8 size seems to be the most cost effective.
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<< <i>I am not a fan of padded envelopes at all and don't use envelopes in general except to mail pennies. If I need to mail something parcel post or first class, I use the priority boxes and cover them with brown paper. I don't feel too bad because I am using them for USPS mailings and I am kind of paying for them in their added weight. I take them all into the post office with my other mailings and the clerks don't mind. >>
Padded envelopes are OK if you cut two pieces of heavy cardboard, like out of a large box, and place the coin between them.
I've done that thousands of times with antique postcards and never had a problem. Only adds an ounce.
JT
I collect all 20th century series except gold including those series that ended there.
<< <i>I recycle everything I get from the Mint >>
Same here. I try to reuse any type of packaging material or cardboard, etc.
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<< <i>Even with registered mail, what's wrong with using an envelope & Safe-T-Mailer to send a coin in a flip? >>
I believe the PO requires Registered Mail to be in a box that is covered with reinforced packaging tape. >>
I believe you need to adjust your beliefs.
I receive single coins from PCSG all the time in heavy duty envelopes.
I just received a "Registered" package in a bubble mailer (sealed with reinforced paper tape) from proofartoncircs.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>If you get caught the PO will charge the recipient the priority rate.
The clerks don't mind because they don't have xray vision. >>
What he said. There's no way to know when a postal worker somewhere along the line will figure out that your wrapped box is actually a PM box, and it will arrive postage due. Whether or not the clerks at your post office mind won't help much then. >>
What a laugh!
Since when can or does the PO start charging Priority Mail rates for something that "looks" like it could be a Priority Mail box? Do you suppose they have a patent on the "dimensions" of the box?
And the last I heard, your mail was PRIVATE meaning that unless they detected something hazardous or dangerous within the container, they CANNOT open it for any reason!
They can weight and double check the amount paid but they CANNOT open it nor inspect it.
"Suspicion" that something was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was inverted and covered in kraft paper is not anywhere near enough evidience to simply put a "postage due" on a parcel that has been mail.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Since when can or does the PO start charging Priority Mail rates for something that "looks" like it could be a Priority Mail box? Do you suppose they have a patent on the "dimensions" of the box?
And the last I heard, your mail was PRIVATE meaning that unless they detected something hazardous or dangerous within the container, they CANNOT open it for any reason!
They can weight and double check the amount paid but they CANNOT open it nor inspect it.
"Suspicion" that something was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was inverted and covered in kraft paper is not anywhere near enough evidience to simply put a "postage due" on a parcel that has been mail. >>
If the USPS suspects that you are using Priority Mail supplies for non-Priority Mail parcels, they will explore the parcel and tack on additional postage due. I've had it happen to me twice (I was the receiver not the shipper).
As far as USPS not being able to open or inspect, definitely not true depending on which rate you are using. Try sending something using the Media Mail rate. You will be confronted with a statement that clearly states that Media Mail is subject to opening and inspection at any time to verify the contents are eligible for the Media rate. There is a LONG history of people abusing Media Mail. Media Mail is reserved for CDs, DVDs, VHS tapes, diskettes, and certain printed matter without advertising, amongst other things.
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What a laugh!
Since when can or does the PO start charging Priority Mail rates for something that "looks" like it could be a Priority Mail box? Do you suppose they have a patent on the "dimensions" of the box?
And the last I heard, your mail was PRIVATE meaning that unless they detected something hazardous or dangerous within the container, they CANNOT open it for any reason!
They can weight and double check the amount paid but they CANNOT open it nor inspect it.
"Suspicion" that something was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was inverted and covered in kraft paper is not anywhere near enough evidience to simply put a "postage due" on a parcel that has been mail.
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Well laugh all you want but here is one scenario that you might have missed, suppose, just suppose somehow the wrapping came apart and the postal clerk then notices
that someone used a priority mail box and did not pay the priority mail rates? Surely that is not an impossible scenario. Also, no where in my original statement did I say or imply that they
would open up a parcel, I simply said if caught the recipient will have to pay the rate.
And if you don't believe me you can simply ask the postmaster in your town what the consequence are if someone uses a Priority mail box, inverted, wrapped in brown paper or simply uses an old one as filling.
Steve
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<< <i>Since when can or does the PO start charging Priority Mail rates for something that "looks" like it could be a Priority Mail box? Do you suppose they have a patent on the "dimensions" of the box?
And the last I heard, your mail was PRIVATE meaning that unless they detected something hazardous or dangerous within the container, they CANNOT open it for any reason!
They can weight and double check the amount paid but they CANNOT open it nor inspect it.
"Suspicion" that something was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was inverted and covered in kraft paper is not anywhere near enough evidience to simply put a "postage due" on a parcel that has been mail. >>
If the USPS suspects that you are using Priority Mail supplies for non-Priority Mail parcels, they will explore the parcel and tack on additional postage due. I've had it happen to me twice (I was the receiver not the shipper).
As far as USPS not being able to open or inspect, definitely not true depending on which rate you are using. Try sending something using the Media Mail rate. You will be confronted with a statement that clearly states that Media Mail is subject to opening and inspection at any time to verify the contents are eligible for the Media rate. There is a LONG history of people abusing Media Mail. Media Mail is reserved for CDs, DVDs, VHS tapes, diskettes, and certain printed matter without advertising, amongst other things. >>
We're not referring to Media Mail. We're referring to Priority Mail boxes being wrapped and sealed in Kraft Paper and mailed 1st Class.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>What a laugh!
Since when can or does the PO start charging Priority Mail rates for something that "looks" like it could be a Priority Mail box? Do you suppose they have a patent on the "dimensions" of the box?
And the last I heard, your mail was PRIVATE meaning that unless they detected something hazardous or dangerous within the container, they CANNOT open it for any reason!
They can weight and double check the amount paid but they CANNOT open it nor inspect it.
"Suspicion" that something was mailed in a Priority Mail box that was inverted and covered in kraft paper is not anywhere near enough evidience to simply put a "postage due" on a parcel that has been mail.
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Well laugh all you want but here is one scenario that you might have missed, suppose, just suppose somehow the wrapping came apart and the postal clerk then notices
that someone used a priority mail box and did not pay the priority mail rates? Surely that is not an impossible scenario. Also, no where in my original statement did I say or imply that they
would open up a parcel, I simply said if caught the recipient will have to pay the rate.
And if you don't believe me you can simply ask the postmaster in your town what the consequence are if someone uses a Priority mail box, inverted, wrapped in brown paper or simply uses an old one as filling.
Steve >>
I will do just that.
The name is LEE!
Steve
The bottom line is its a dishonest behavior that is a refection of a persons overall character and an indicator of their trustworthiness..... scamming like a lowlife is nothing to be proud about...
<< <i>We're referring to Priority Mail boxes being wrapped and sealed in Kraft Paper and mailed 1st Class.
The bottom line is its a dishonest behavior that is a refection of a persons overall character and an indicator of their trustworthiness..... scamming like a lowlife is nothing to be proud about... >>
Horse Crap!
Its utilizing packaging that the USPS gives away for free. Absolutely no different than finding a box at the super market and using it to pack belongings in to move.
Everything thats sent 1st class thats over 13 ounces gets billed at priority mail rates anyway.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>I can't believe what I'm reading. Mailing $5,000 coins in a bubble mailer? Those things can get torn, and what do you think USPS is going to say when you bring your empty envelope in for an insurance claim? >>
Since I started buying stuff on eBay, I have received one damaged envelope wit the contents still inside and two damaged boxes, both empty. I don't know what that proves, but there it is, anyway.