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MS67 VS MS68 LINCOLN CENT?
bigtonydallas
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What is the difference between an MS67 and an MS68? Will PCGS explain if I send a coin in what imperfections the coin has to make it a MS67, or MS66 or even an MS68? If it comes back MS70 then there should be no explination. Will a few raised dots on an 1983-D lincoln cause the grade to be lower?
Anyone with a picture of an MS68 & MS67 PCGS Lincoln cent?
Thanks,
Anyone with a picture of an MS68 & MS67 PCGS Lincoln cent?
Thanks,
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PCGS has more liability with an ms 68 than an ms 67. PCGS use to explain what imperfections a coin has to make it an ms 67 or ms 66. It was called Presidential review. However they stopped that service.
A few dots as you call them are bubbles in the planchet and the graders have to determine if they are detrimental to the eye appeal of the coin.
Stewart
As for an MS68 Lincoln I'd like to see one also. I'm sure their are some satin finish ones out there but if anyone has a MS68 95% copper I'd love to see it.
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his 1918 68RD:
his 1923 68RD:
Thomas Irwin's 1930 68RD:
his 1937 68RD:
and finally, Mr. Irwin's 39-D 68RD:
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<< <i>I thought Stewart had a 69 in his collection. Maybe someone could post a link to pics for us. >>
I think this is the one you are referring to.
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I could actually shave Lincoln's beard on that 1919.
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<< <i>BEAUTIFUL COINS. I THINK THE 1919 SHOULD GET A 69 FOR THE DETAIL IN THE BEARD! >>
That beard almost looks like its ALIVE!
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<< <i>Didn't Stewart pull the 1919 out of a roll that also contained multiple MS-68s and MS-67s? >>
Probably the first ones struck using those particular dies, I would guess.
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<< <i>Didn't Stewart pull the 1919 out of a roll that also contained multiple MS-68s and MS-67s? >>
Probably the first ones struck using those particular dies, I would guess. >>
Maybe Stewart should get First Strike™ designation?
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But, could just be the pix.
and they're cold.
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<< <i>Yep, I guess the 1930-P is a low end 68? Just doesn't cut the mustard in the presence of the others.
But, could just be the pix. >>
What about the '23 with the huge scratch between the forehead and hair-line?
IMO that coin is not better than a 66!
Stewart or Don, any comments?
(And I know grading is subjective and not plausible from pics, but enlighten me on this)
<< <i>What about the '23 with the huge scratch between the forehead and hair-line? >>
Looks as minted to me.
I guess it's a matter of opinion how much it detracts.
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What would this coin go for at auction? 50K? 75k? ??
<< <i>On the 1919 MS69. Truely a beautiful coin.
What would this coin go for at auction? 50K? 75k? ?? >>
I think he turns down both of those numbers added together.
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But look elsewhere. Lincoln's eye, for example. I have never seen such detail on an MS Lincoln. And yet it is oddly missing the furrows above the eyebrow, so prominent for strikes of that era. The cheek and forehead are also unusually smooth.
I wonder if this business strike was done with proof dies. The Mint was known to do that. Whatever the case, I would guess you will need more than money. You will have to pry this from Stewart's cold, dead hands.
Lance.
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I think Stewart answered the question of how it was made on the original post in 2003.
From an original roll, but he had to resubmit a group of 68RDs from that roll to get the 69RD.
Sometimes the graders need to see a "group pose" of 68 RDs to see how much better one coin really is.
That's the only way you get a coin like this made at that grade.
and how much scrutiny dishing out that grade took on behalf of PCGS.
We will never see that grade again on early Lincolns.
<< <i>The 1919 is spectacular. Your eye is drawn to the beard detail because of the reflected light.
But look elsewhere. Lincoln's eye, for example. I have never seen such detail on an MS Lincoln. And yet it is oddly missing the furrows above the eyebrow, so prominent for strikes of that era. The cheek and forehead are also unusually smooth.
I wonder if this business strike was done with proof dies. The Mint was known to do that. Whatever the case, I would guess you will need more than money. You will have to pry this from Stewart's cold, dead hands.
Lance. >>
No! Just buy it from the person that gets it in the will.
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