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No, she did not just say that!!!
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I think I'm in love and she is very cute too
That line made me throw up a little in my mouth.
<< <i>I dont think you would ever see a criminal prosecution for recoloring a coin or "thumbing a nickel". I doubt you could convince a prosecutor or jury that that is "defacing" a coin. >>
That's what I was thinking. You and I must be missing something...
Who is John Galt?
She is right... the doctoring thing is a sham and a darn shame... how to expose them without feeling the wrath of some ambulance chasing lawyers??? now that's the real trick... and would it "save" all collectors from being tricked? well, not if WC Fields was right... or was it PT Barnum? no matter... if a person chooses to be foolish it is next to impossible to stop them... and buying something without any real knowledge of what you are buying, is foolish at best...
"Why don't the numismatic major organizations, such as the PNG (who so quickly tried hijack and claim their own the orIginal reward fund Jon Lerner and I started), the ANA, and all other prominent entities offer a reward fund for the arrest and conviction of all coin doctors? I am dead serious about this."
<< <i>I think I'm in love and she is very cute too
<< <i>She has a seated coin on her website in AU, and she has a rant in the description about how some crackout artist dipped the only known MS one and stripped the coin. >>
Same happend with an spectacular O/C CH BU Seated Half that sold in the 80's Milton Cohen error collection... today it's in a PCGS AU58 holder an it was heavily molested since the Cohen sale as it's almost non recognizable as the same coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>So, how many years in prison for wrapping a coin in a Taco Bell napkin? Or dipping a Franklin half? Or thumbing a Morgan dollar? Someone needs a reality check. >>
Glad you didn't mention tonguing a SBA!
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<< <i>So, how many years in prison for wrapping a coin in a Taco Bell napkin? Or dipping a Franklin half? Or thumbing a Morgan dollar? Someone needs a reality check. >>
Glad you didn't mention tonguing a SBA!
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
(I'm a message board weanie that she referred to on a previous hot topic)
<< <i>I really wish Laura could still post. I miss her stirring up the natives every now and then - it got pretty funny at times. >>
Usually, it was the natives that got Laura stirred up, but I also miss her.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>its probably just another wet dream of mine,
That line made me throw up a little in my mouth. >>
Yeah, although if I had to read that, it may as well be on Halloween. I think that means I get some candy now.
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Forgive me, but this is among the stupidest, most preposterous, impractical, unfeasible, and in fact indefensible ideas that I have ever read.
People may love Laura, and perhaps justifiably so. She may be a great numismatist, and infinitely deep in her knowledge of coins (which I sure as hell don't claim to be). It's her grasp of reality that I question. Let's not be ridiculous.
"Question your assumptions."
"Intelligence is an evolutionary adaptation."
<< <i>A good question that deserves an answer?
Forgive me, but this is among the stupidest, most preposterous, impractical, unfeasible, and in fact indefensible ideas that I have ever read.
People may love Laura, and perhaps justifiably so. She may be a great numismatist, and infinitely deep in her knowledge of coins (which I sure as hell don't claim to be). It's her grasp of reality that I question. Let's not be ridiculous. >>
C'mon, don't sugar coat it, take off the kid gloves and tell us how you really feel about this!
"Question your assumptions."
"Intelligence is an evolutionary adaptation."
Doesn't Lori have an idea who these doctors might be?
Surely she must at which case I could see the witch trials beginning with her. If she's so adamant about this soap box then let her speak out!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Agreed -- and she poses a good question that deserves an answer...
"Why don't the numismatic major organizations, such as the PNG (who so quickly tried hijack and claim their own the orIginal reward fund Jon Lerner and I started), the ANA, and all other prominent entities offer a reward fund for the arrest and conviction of all coin doctors? I am dead serious about this." >>
Simple, the person submitting the coin may not have been the doctor.
The name is LEE!
CAC and tightening TPG standards on artificial toning I've seen described on this forum will help separate original, unmolested coins in the marketplace. These coins are scarcer, and will command premium prices.
It is frustrating to see the stock of original pieces steadily declining. Human nature is always to try to make something 'better'. I don't think reward funds or other consumer/collector level efforts will be effective in changing this aspect of human nature.
Certainly, I wish people would take a moment and think of how huge a 'chain of custody' they will be compromising because of their actions. So much history. Frustrating.
The market will decide.
1) Long before someone came up with the idea of putting green footballs on slabs, the market was already paying a premium for choice, original coins.
2) I've seen a lot of dipped coins with stickers attached.
3) If stickers are so effective at affecting TPG and coin doctor behavior, why is this still a "Hot Topic"?
<< <i>Forgive me, but this is among the stupidest, most preposterous, impractical, unfeasible, and in fact indefensible ideas that I have ever read. >>
Agree. I bet all those coin doctors are really scared.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
If she wants people to be punished, let her tell the world who it was so we know to avoid them.
that would make laura happy as well as teach the firm a lesson
<< <i>Recently we were aware of a major firm that took a gorgeous original coin from an auction, added color, and then got it regraded a higher grade. They placed it back in auction. >>
Sounds like the TPGs are a major part of the problem
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Why is puttying a MS-66 Saint any different than repairing a stamp or a baseball card. It's still fraud and won't quite fit in small claims court. Why will the FBI go after one and not the other? You may not even have to convict anybody, a couple of perp walks out of the Baltimore show might slow it down a little. >>
I would laugh my ass off if the two coin doc punks that physically threatened Laura were led out of Baltimore show in handcuffs.
It's only a matter of time - if the FBI will get involved in sports cards, you gotta know that coins will come around eventually.
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<< <i>Why is puttying a MS-66 Saint any different than repairing a stamp or a baseball card. It's still fraud and won't quite fit in small claims court. Why will the FBI go after one and not the other? You may not even have to convict anybody, a couple of perp walks out of the Baltimore show might slow it down a little. >>
I would laugh my ass off if the two coin doc punks that physically threatened Laura were led out of Baltimore show in handcuffs.
It's only a matter of time - if the FBI will get involved in sports cards, you gotta know that coins will come around eventually. >>
What exactly happened there?
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<< <i>Why is puttying a MS-66 Saint any different than repairing a stamp or a baseball card. It's still fraud and won't quite fit in small claims court. Why will the FBI go after one and not the other? You may not even have to convict anybody, a couple of perp walks out of the Baltimore show might slow it down a little. >>
I would laugh my ass off if the two coin doc punks that physically threatened Laura were led out of Baltimore show in handcuffs.
It's only a matter of time - if the FBI will get involved in sports cards, you gotta know that coins will come around eventually. >>
What exactly happened there? >>
They got in her face and told her in so many words that if she didn't back off she was gonna get it. One's an occasional forum member here [when it's to his financial advantage to show up], the other is jdhfla's guy.
FBI Involved in Collectibles Doctoring Investigation
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......