OBW Finds on my birthday!!!

rmpsrpms

About a year ago I bought a group of 36 OBW 1956D Lincolns on eBay, all from Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. I wanted to look through them at the time but we were in the middle of a move and living in hotels, so off they went into a box in storage. I finally found the box and started looking through them last night, and WOW what a nice purchase that was! There are 3 types of rolls represented with different printing styles. I opened one of each of the 3 types and this is what I found:

Roll 1: 10 WDMM-001 1956D/S, S between 1 and 9 of date
Roll 2: No varieties, nice coins though
Roll 3: 4 RPM#1, the one with the nice wide spread

Based on what I found, I am going to make the assumption these were unsearched. But who knows, maybe they were but the searcher(s) were not variety collectors? Too bad for them.

I have 33 more rolls to look through! How much fun is that going to be??

To celebrate my numismatic birthday present, I am going to give away three (3) BU examples of the 1956D/S from the first roll. Here's what you need to do to win:

1) wish me a happy birthday
2) quote the Daughtry reference designation for this variety (eg 1OMM-005)
3) quote the Crawford reference designation for this variety (eg CDMM-005)
4) quote the Wexler reference designation for this variety (eg WOMM-005)
5) quote the CONECA reference designation for this variety (eg OMM-005)

First 3 folks replying with the correct designations win. WARNING: one of the above is a trick(!!!!!)

Good Luck, and Happy Birthday to ME...RayP

STONE

Happy B-Day

Coneca - Unlisted
Wexler - WDMM - 001
Crawford - CDMM-001
Daughtry - 1OMM - 001 (?)
FS # - Unlisted

MsMorrisine

nice birthday present for yourself

happy birthday

erwindoc

Happy Birthday!!! Great finds!

MORGANHUNTER2

I'd like to see some pics before I make any further comment- cuz as always, this thread is useless without PICS!!!!!

ocon4008

1) Happy Birthday!

2) Daughtry - 1956D-1OM - 001
3) Crawford - CDMM-001
4) Wexler - WDMM - 001
5) Coneca - was OMM-001 now Delisted

Edited to add; have many more!

rmpsrpms

<< <i>I'd like to see some pics before I make any further comment- cuz as always, this thread is useless without PICS!!!!! >>



OK. I got a pic for you. See Attachment. I can't figure out how to put the pic right into the reply.

The 10 coins came from the wrapper right above them.

ponderit

Happy Birthday

2) quote the Daughtry reference designation for this variety
3) quote the Crawford reference designation for this variety
4) quote the Wexler reference designation for this variety
5) quote the CONECA reference designation for this variety

2) unlisted
3) CDMM-001
4) WDMM-001
5) unlisted

ocon4008

Here is you picture sir; and have a piece of cake for me.

rmpsrpms

Thank you. How did you get it directly into the post? I see the picture icon, but it asks for a URL, not a file location to upload...

rmpsrpms

<< <i>Happy Birthday

2) quote the Daughtry reference designation for this variety
3) quote the Crawford reference designation for this variety
4) quote the Wexler reference designation for this variety
5) quote the CONECA reference designation for this variety

2) unlisted
3) CDMM-001
4) WDMM-001
5) unlisted >>



The "Daughtry Designation" is shown on CopperCoins website. According to the website it is definitely listed...RayP

rmpsrpms

OK, so I made two errors in the original post. I mis-spelled Chuck's name. It's Daughtrey, not Daughtry. I also got the format wrong, it's 1OM-005, not 1OMM-005. Either format will be accepted for the prizes.

mikeyg

dont knowany of the answers but HAPPY BIRTHDAY anyway.just glad to be out of the hospital and scanning the boards again

rmpsrpms

OK, I'm going to call the winners. I messed up on the CopperCoins/Daughtrey designation, so I will throw that one out and award the prizes to:

Stone: answered within 5 minutes of my post. Quick research and typing there!
ocon4008: Thanks for putting the pic of the coins up!
ponderit: Made me look up Chuck's "real name" on CopperCoins, thanks!

OK, you guys (or gals) PM me with your mailing addresses and I'll ship the coins off to you. Enjoy!

And thanks for all the birthday wishes.

RayP

rmpsrpms

<< <i>dont knowany of the answers but HAPPY BIRTHDAY anyway.just glad to be out of the hospital and scanning the boards again >>



Glad you are better and back to the hobby.

ponderit

Ray, thanks a bunch! I got your PM and look forward to receiving your prize. Have a great weekend!

grip

<< <i>dont knowany of the answers but HAPPY BIRTHDAY anyway.just glad to be out of the hospital and scanning the boards again >>



Hope nothing serious.Welcome back.

dbemike

Congrats on the nice find. My picture isn't great but you can see between 1 & 9 what appears to be a S.

rmpsrpms

You may not have noticed but my Avatar is of this variety. I am quite fond of it.

RayP

barbershopper

Nice way to spend a little spare time.

Sure brings back my memories of searching bags of nickels and dimes in the 1950's.
They came from parking meters and bus fares.
That was a thrill a minute!

JT

anoldgoat

The Daughtrey Designation is on page 175 of Looking Through Lincoln Cents, 1956D-1OM-001

GrumpyEd

Thread about the 10M-001:

Coppercoins thread

The listing for 1OM-001:

Coppercoins listing for it

Congrats on the cool finds on your birthday! I haven't found this one yet but I like it even though Coneca delisted it. Still a neat variety.

rmpsrpms

I believe Wiles' analysis is flawed. Once you have the coin in-hand, and hold it at just the right angle to see the entire S mintmark, it is clear this is an OMM. As I remember Wiles used an EDS coin, which had most of the S ground away and he was not able to line up enough of what was there to prove it was an S. But this variety is similar to a lot of RPMs that actually get stronger as the die wears due to metal strain and die wear. Kind of like putting acid on a worn-off buffalo nickel date. The later die state coins (which is all I've found) are much more obviously an OMM.

Supposedly some new analysis is done on OMMs in the soon-to-be-published Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents and I can't wait to see what Wexler and Allen's conclusion is.

RayP

GrumpyEd

<< <i>this variety is similar to a lot of RPMs that actually get stronger as the die wears due to metal strain and die wear. >>



This is true, some RPMs get stronger and clearer in later states.
More examples to look at might change the opinions of the experts.

harleythedog

What ever came of this based on your 2009 post? rmpsrpms?

rmpsrpms

Wow, 12 year old post. Lots of memories there. Indeed it looks like I need to dig up the remaining 33 rolls of 56-D. Not sure what became of them. I haven't sold any 56-D OBW's so they are probably still around.

As it turns out, everyone expected the CPG 6th to have this variety in it. But Wiles ended up as a contributor and supposedly blocked the inclusion. So the variety is still in limbo. There are a couple folks, including Jason C, who also don't believe this is an OMM/DMM, but for most everyone else who views one there is no question. I've done my own overlays and am still convinced, but alas I have no power.

Walkerguy21D

Guess it’s a little too late to wish you happy birthday , but what’s 12 years and 5 weeks lol 😉

LanceNewmanOCC

@rmpsrpms said:
I've done my own overlays and am still convinced, but alas I have no power.

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do you have a thread/post(s)/image(s) here somewhere?

rmpsrpms

No, I've never published them. I basically agreed with Wiles that the "S" was inverted, but for some reason he still would not authenticate it even with that result, not sure why.

ricko

How about some pictures now?? I was off doing consulting work during the OP....so missed it completely (though I would not have known the designations anyway). Always nice to learn though... Cheers, RickO