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1928-D Buffalo Nickel. What do ya think of this one? The tail of two Buffalo's! GRADE REVEALED. LAST

crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
An incredible strike for the date and the color is also quite nice. So how do you feel about my new pick-up? Thanks for looking...Joe
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This is my other one, quite a difference.
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The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

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  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Pretty.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • RyGuyRyGuy Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭
    Very pretty, but not my series. I'll wait for others responses.
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭✭✭
    everything seems to be in order image
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    About as good as it gets with a 1928-d. Outstanding to say the least.
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>About as good as it gets with a 1928-d. Outstanding to say the least. >>



    I've got to say I totally agree , for a 1928-d I think this piece is over the top!! Thanks...
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin and strike, but too much color to submit right now...
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is one of those dates that it seems they didn't make any nice ones. You'd think
    one or two of the new dies were decent and struck some nice coins but not always.

    It's extremely good for the date. I prefer the top notch coins without planchet scratches
    but you can't be too picky with this one.
    Tempus fugit.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have added the 1928-D Buffalo Nickel I replaced, quite a difference eh? Both are uncirulated.
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I wonder, can one make Ox Tail Soup from

    buffalo tail?
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder, can one make Ox Tail Soup from

    buffalo tail? >>



    I think you can!!
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    The first coin looks AT'ed, but otherwise it's an MS65 which is a very tough grade for this date.

    The second coin is also mint state but with a very poor strike. I'd grade it MS62.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • capecape Posts: 1,621
    SORRY BUT ANOTHER A T COIN- NOT EVEN CLOSE TO NATURAL ------ NICE STRIKE BUT ONLY AU WITH THE TONING MAKING IT APPEAR AS A MINT STATE COIN !!!!!
    ed rodrigues
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>SORRY BUT ANOTHER A T COIN- NOT EVEN CLOSE TO NATURAL ------ NICE STRIKE BUT ONLY AU WITH THE TONING MAKING IT APPEAR AS A MINT STATE COIN !!!!! >>



    Where do you see the rub on this coin? Please educate me. And what's with the CAPTS.?
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No amount of toning will make this coin look as well struck as it it. I don't see any rub, but do see some weakness in the strike, which is very typical with this date. This is a definite MS65 coin. Whether PCGS would slab it or not is anybody's guess. They are tough at this point with any coin with color, AT or NT.
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty coin, but respect the opinions of the experts in this series when they are kind enough to chime in.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty coin, but respect the opinions of the experts in this series when they are kind enough to chime in. >>



    No disrespect here on my part, just want to see how the experts arrive at their opinions and hope they are kind enough to explain .
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not my series either, but nice color, and I appreciate the education in strike quality by being able to compare the 2 coins almost side by side. Is it safe to say the dies used on the second coin were very worn by the time that coin was struck?
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    The coloring looks, shall we say, overwrought.
    It's a very well-struck 28-D with gem possibilities. B
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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>certainly is hammed for the date/MM >>



    I must say, I'm very impressed with the strike. Went to the Teletrade archives and looked at 66 examples that have sold there since 2006 and every one of them had worse strikes. There were a couple that were close. Most were graded MS63 and MS64 by both PCGS and NGC (fathom that will ya) And there were a couple of MS65s that sold for $900 and $600 where the strikes weren't any better than the others (must have been the registry flu). As for the toning, looks similar to some coins I have in an older Whitman deluxe album (sliding windows type) Anyways, the strike is tops, the only way to make distracting marks acceptable on a tough date (but not your coin). Nice pick up!


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>certainly is hammed for the date/MM >>



    I must say, I'm very impressed with the strike. Went to the Teletrade archives and looked at 66 examples that have sold there since 2006 and every one of them had worse strikes. There were a couple that were close. Most were graded MS63 and MS64 by both PCGS and NGC (fathom that will ya) And there were a couple of MS65s that sold for $900 and $600 where the strikes weren't any better than the others (must have been the registry flu). As for the toning, looks similar to some coins I have in an older Whitman deluxe album (sliding windows type) Anyways, the strike is tops, the only way to make distracting marks acceptable on a tough date (but not your coin). Nice pick up!


    Leo >>



    Thank you for all the information, it is appreciated!! I also think this coin is hammered and quite beautiful or I woundn't have posted it on my favorite forum. The color looks perfectly natural to me but I could wrong ,it's happened before.
    I just want to thank all of you guy's for responding to this nickel, it's always a lot of fun and an education experience.....Joe
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • capecape Posts: 1,621
    Sorry that I haven't been back as I am still at Coinfest- the RUB on this coin is on the high point of the hip ----- look at the toning change as there is definately rub on this coin! The coin has a great strike as many au coins end up in either au58 or ms63. Hope this helps!
    ed rodrigues
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry that I haven't been back as I am still at Coinfest- the RUB on this coin is on the high point of the hip ----- look at the toning change as there is definitely rub on this coin! The coin has a great strike as many au coins end up in either au58 or ms63. Hope this helps! >>



    No rub on this coin. I think you may be referring to the light reflection. Here another pic. This coin is at least a 65 or better IMO. And ya know you really can't grade a coin from a picture IMO. And forgive me for my ignorance , but how can an AU coin end up in a ms-63 holder?
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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • capecape Posts: 1,621
    You are right - there is no rub showing with the better picture!!!!! But I believe the color is suspicious and if I were grading this coin would't pass the test for being ORIGINAL as I feel the coin has been enhanced. Only one way to know----- submit the coin and good luck!
    ed rodrigues
  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    The color is not natural. Anything beyond a golden hue on a Buffalo is suspect to me. If that doesn't bother you, then be happy with the purchase. It does have a tremendous strike. Here's an example with natural toning. image
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The color is not natural. Anything beyond a golden hue on a Buffalo is suspect to me. If that doesn't bother you, then be happy with the purchase. It does have a tremendous strike. Here's an example with natural toning. image >>

    crazyhounddog

    Then I guess this ms-67 is a suspect. I have slabbs with all kinds of different colors. If you want to hold yourself to gold, that's up to you.
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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The color is not natural. Anything beyond a golden hue on a Buffalo is suspect to me. If that doesn't bother you, then be happy with the purchase. It does have a tremendous strike. Here's an example with natural toning. image >>

    crazyhounddog

    Then I guess this ms-67 is a suspect. I have slabbs with all kinds of different colors. If you want to hold yourself to gold, that's up to you.
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    Here's another suspect...pcgs ms-65
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    This one is a ms-64 and it's redish?
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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's the same coin imaged with OTT lites.
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    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • capecape Posts: 1,621
    I'd have to see this coin in hand but this image certainly looks better!
    ed rodrigues
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Looks nicer to me....
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    Congratulations, Joe!

    Question: If you had it to do over again, KNOWING through some gift of prophecy that this would be the final result, would you buy the 16-D and 28-D coins again? If you KNEW the 16-D would wind up in an NGC MS63 holder, and that the 28-D would wind up in an NGC MS64 holder (no chance they would grade any higher, and that PCGS would reject), would you buy them as raw pieces?

    I wouldn't. The triumph of the color eventually being deemed okay would be overshadowed by my being PO'd and disappointed all those many months between purchase, submission, rejection and finally, certification. And I wouldn't be thrilled by the grades, either, because I, like you, probably would have seen them as MS64 minimum when I pulled the trigger.

    It's a stimulating game, but it wears my ass out.image
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congratulations, Joe!

    Question: If you had it to do over again, KNOWING through some gift of prophecy that this would be the final result, would you buy the 16-D and 28-D coins again? If you KNEW the 16-D would wind up in an NGC MS63 holder, and that the 28-D would wind up in an NGC MS64 holder (no chance they would grade any higher, and that PCGS would reject), would you buy them as raw pieces?

    I wouldn't. The triumph of the color eventually being deemed okay would be overshadowed by my being PO'd and disappointed all those many months between purchase, submission, rejection and finally, certification. And I wouldn't be thrilled by the grades, either, because I, like you, probably would have seen them as MS64 minimum when I pulled the trigger.

    It's a stimulating game, but it wears my ass out.image >>



    Okay, you got me!image Would I buy these two coins again, knowing what I know?....Tough question, only because I have a 16-d in an ms-63 grade, so on that coin, I would have to say yes, because I bought this coin cheap. As to the 28-d I love the look of this piece, yes I have a couple of others in the same date but this one has the eye appeal "I" like. These two coins are just fine, no problem what so ever in my book. But I will go on to add " go for what turns you on " That's what collecting is all about. Isn't it? Ed, I have learned so much from you my friend, and I'll always respect your opinions on the Buffalo Nickel...Joe
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    'Dog, I admire you as a collector. Your enthusiasm is remarkable and your threads are terrific. One day one or both of those coins will not only cross, but upgrade.
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  • ecichlidecichlid Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭
    Hi Joe, thanks for sharing the grade. image

    I'm wondering if your first photo is a good representation in hand. The slab photo does not show and of the red, blue or green like the original picture. I guess I will never know without seeing it in hand.

    May I ask why did you chose NGC instead of PCGS?
    There is no "AT" or "NT". We only have "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi Joe, thanks for sharing the grade. image

    I'm wondering if your first photo is a good representation in hand. The slab photo does not show and of the red, blue or green like the original picture. I guess I will never know without seeing it in hand.

    May I ask why did you chose NGC instead of PCGS? >>



    The first image I shared with you folks was when this piece was raw, I can take much better images of coins with out having to deal with all of that dog gone reflection, I hate it! The first image is the best representation of the coin, it truely is lovely. I would think ms-65 looking at this piece in hand....Joe
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know what made me think of it but those first coins off those early dies all end up at the bottom of the hopper. So locating that fully struck coin in high grade can be quite challenging. Add toning and NGC doesn't know what they're talking about.


    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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