The official POST ALL FAKE AUTO'S ON HERE..........

MinorLeagueSource · September 23, 2009 6:37AM

After reading feedback from everyone I decided to make one post for all fake auto's. I will list all fakes I find on here. Also if you can help report these to ebay so they can be removed.

1st post of course he got it in person:

Jeter of Course

Best regards!

cwazzy · September 23, 2009 6:46AM

This may be impossible due to players signatures changing, but I would rather have a thread in which I can see genuine autos and compare to them. But this is a good alternative I guess. Good luck in your quest!

zep33 · September 23, 2009 6:49AM

here's one

mccardguy1 · September 23, 2009 6:57AM

I just found a whole bunch!!

ItemID Set Name Player Final Grade
6231026 1994 Action Packed Derek Jeter Authentic
6231025 2007 South Atlantic League Top Prospects Multi-Ad Kyle Drabek Authentic
6231024 1973 Topps Franco Harris Authentic
6231023 2000 Sports Illustrated Tiger Woods Authentic
6231022 1994 Action Packed Derek Jeter Authentic
6231021 1995 Action Packed Derek Jeter POY Authentic
6231020 1995 Fleer Major League Prospects Derek Jeter Authentic
6231019 2007 Hawaii Winter League Austin Jackson Authentic
6231018 2001 Topps Stars Jose Reyes Authentic
6231017 2002 Beloit Snappers Update Multi-Ad Prince Fielder Authentic
6231016 2003 Midwest League All-Star Choice Prince Fielder Authentic
6231015 2003 Midwest League Top Prospects Grandstand Prince Fielder Authentic
6231014 Unlicensed Card Junichi Tazawa Authentic
6231013 2009 Portland Sea Dogs Grandstand Junichi Tazawa Authentic
6231012 1994-95 Excel Derek Jeter Authentic
6231011 1994 Classic Derek Jeter Authentic
6231010 2004 Binghamton Mets Grandstand David Wright Authentic
6231009 1962 Topps Richie Ashburn Authentic
6231008 1989 Score Rookie/Traded Ken Griffey Jr. Authentic
6231007 1998 South Atlantic League Prospects Multi-Ad Jayson Werth Authentic
6231006 2004 Huntsville Stars Colonial Graphics Group Prince Fielder Authentic
6231005 2003 Upper Deck Prospect Premieres Aaron Hill Authentic
6231004 2005 2005 Carolina League Top Prospects Choice Nick Markakis Authentic
6231003 2003 Trenton Thunder Multi-Ad Chien-Ming Wang Authentic
6231002 2005 Columbus Clippers Choice Chien-Ming Wang 9.5
6231001 2004 Eastern League Top Prospects Grandstand Chien-ming Wang 9.0
6231000 2003 Eastern League Top Prospects Grandstand Chein-Ming Wang 9.0
6230999 2003 St. Lucie Mets Grandstand David Wright Authentic
6230998 1999 Flair Showcase Row 3 Derek Jeter Authentic
6230997 1995 Collector's Choice Derek Jeter Authentic
6230996 2007 Danville Braves Grandstand Jason Heyward Authentic
6230995 2002 Akron Aeros Multi-Ad Victor Martinez Authentic

I had to do it!!! Just kidding!!!!!

MinorLeagueSource · September 23, 2009 1:23PM

Our freind Shoeless with one of his 1,000's of fakes.

Gai + Scammer = someone getting screwed

vladguerrero · September 23, 2009 1:53PM

I think this is a good idea (one thread) and I do enjoy these posts. The GAI shoeless doesn't look nearly as bad as his other stuff, if it is fake he's getting a lot better. Also maybe it's a better idea to post pics instead of links since the links will expire down the line while pics can always be referenced.

vladguerrero · September 23, 2009 1:54PM

<< here's one

>>

...and that IS real.

vladguerrero · September 23, 2009 2:07PM

A-Rod GAI

From same lot of GAI's from the same seller, another weird angle, maybe the same sharpie?

Are these old? Didn't think GAI did auto's anymore?

MinorLeagueSource · September 26, 2009 4:07AM

Jeter

swartz1 · September 26, 2009 8:44AM

hows about this jeter...

MinorLeagueSource · September 26, 2009 8:58AM

<< hows about this jeter... >>

Real!

csmtampa · September 26, 2009 9:00AM

Yup those are good

schr1st · September 29, 2009 8:20PM

PSA/DNA quick opinion gave a thumbs down to the UD Minors Jeter he had up for sale.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 29, 2009 11:48PM

<< A-Rod GAI

From same lot of GAI's from the same seller, another weird angle, maybe the same sharpie?

Are these old? Didn't think GAI did auto's anymore? >>

Global Authentication does Autos (in CA) Flip mentioned

Global Authority does cards, packs (in IA) Flip with Black on edges

MinorLeagueSource · September 30, 2009 12:20AM

<< 

<< hows about this jeter... >>

Real! >>

I think fake now. The seller sent me a bigger scan & now the auto ooks off.

Gator · September 30, 2009 12:41PM

Mantle

MinorLeagueSource · September 30, 2009 1:49PM

<< Mantle >>

lol

MinorLeagueSource · October 4, 2009 1:14AM

It looks like Shoeless got into bed with Gai. He's banned from Psa & Bgs so what do you want a scammer to do??

Its seems he has a lot of cards in there slabs now & guess what there all fake. Suprising! Someone is really going to get screwed with the Walter Payton he has up. Take a look through his newly listed there all forged & slabbed.

Jeter Drunk Stlye Sig

swartz1 · October 4, 2009 1:36AM

<< 

<< 

<< hows about this jeter... >>

Real! >>

I think fake now. The seller sent me a bigger scan & now the auto ooks off. >>

I know what I thought all along...

seems to sort-of a guessing game for some...

vladguerrero · October 4, 2009 2:04AM

That's a ton of fake auto's he's just listed, disappointing to see lots of fake auto's in other companies holders as well in his listings.

StanTheManMusial · October 4, 2009 3:24AM

<< It looks like Shoeless got into bed with Gai. He's banned from Psa & Bgs so what do you want a scammer to do??

Its seems he has a lot of cards in there slabs now & guess what there all fake. Suprising! Someone is really going to get screwed with the Walter Payton he has up. Take a look through his newly listed there all forged & slabbed.

Jeter Drunk Stlye Sig >>

He is still submitting stuff to PSA..

hammered · October 4, 2009 3:28AM

I'm not an auto expert but I was looking at Peterson RCs and came across this - Topps Premiere RED auto from (I think) one of our favorite forgers
If you know Peterson's auto, this one's not even close
So he wiped off the blue auto and signed a red one, turning a $200+ card into a $500+ card, right?

Red auto on ebay now

Another one he just sold

So these red autos have a print run of 10, and he has 2 of them for sale within a week's time?

Here's a real red auto

See, on the real cards Adrian used a thinner point pen. And see the narrower, taller strokes on the real one - that's how all his sigs look.
It's too bad - carboardpimping's fake auto sold for more than the real one.

I'm beginning to think that the only way to get these people off Ebay is to do what Markel did w/ the infamous card doctor on Net54, and that is to bring a class action lawsuit involving several people who have purchased fake stuff from that seller. It seems at the moment, they sell this stuff with impunity.

MinorLeagueSource · October 4, 2009 10:18AM

<< I'm not an auto expert but I was looking at Peterson RCs and came across this - Topps Premiere RED auto from (I think) one of our favorite forgers
If you know Peterson's auto, this one's not even close
So he wiped off the blue auto and signed a red one, turning a $200+ card into a $500+ card, right?

Red auto on ebay now

Another one he just sold

So these red autos have a print run of 10, and he has 2 of them for sale within a week's time?

Here's a real red auto

See, on the real cards Adrian used a thinner point pen. And see the narrower, taller strokes on the real one - that's how all his sigs look.
It's too bad - carboardpimping's fake auto sold for more than the real one.

I'm beginning to think that the only way to get these people off Ebay is to do what Markel did w/ the infamous card doctor on Net54, and that is to bring a class action lawsuit involving several people who have purchased fake stuff from that seller. It seems at the moment, they sell this stuff with impunity. >>

i reported it & I hope everyone else does. I also reported all the fake Gai cards that Shoeless has up.

MinorLeagueSource · October 4, 2009 12:18PM

<< I'm not an auto expert but I was looking at Peterson RCs and came across this - Topps Premiere RED auto from (I think) one of our favorite forgers
If you know Peterson's auto, this one's not even close
So he wiped off the blue auto and signed a red one, turning a $200+ card into a $500+ card, right?

Red auto on ebay now

Another one he just sold

So these red autos have a print run of 10, and he has 2 of them for sale within a week's time?

Here's a real red auto

See, on the real cards Adrian used a thinner point pen. And see the narrower, taller strokes on the real one - that's how all his sigs look.
It's too bad - carboardpimping's fake auto sold for more than the real one.

I'm beginning to think that the only way to get these people off Ebay is to do what Markel did w/ the infamous card doctor on Net54, and that is to bring a class action lawsuit involving several people who have purchased fake stuff from that seller. It seems at the moment, they sell this stuff with impunity. >>

Hammer the one Peterson you say is real is fake. Thats a Shoelessjoe auction.

hammered · October 4, 2009 12:35PM

I guess you're right. I don't know all of his usernames. He sold yet another red auto on Sept 20.

So that's 4 of the 10 in existence owned by the same guy and sold in the same month.

He must have opened 50 cases of the product

I'll report them as well. But I don't have high hopes of anything happening. He's survived this long.

DonWestFan · October 4, 2009 3:57PM

This one is just sad - the seller is just a simple liar.

Topps Heritage Albert Pujols

From his description:

"We are foul line field box season ticket holders and Albert personally autographed this card for me in 2004 before a game."

My email to him:

Sorry, but I just don't see the autograph on this card. Are you saying that the red signature on the back of the card was personally signed for you by Albert Pujols?

His response:

Yes.

csmtampa · October 4, 2009 4:01PM

<< This one is just sad - the seller is just a simple liar.

Topps Heritage Albert Pujols

From his description:

"We are foul line field box season ticket holders and Albert personally autographed this card for me in 2004 before a game."

My email to him:

Sorry, but I just don't see the autograph on this card. Are you saying that the red signature on the back of the card was personally signed for you by Albert Pujols?

His response:

Yes. >>

Wow now that is just ridiculous

slantycouch · October 4, 2009 9:52PM

<< This one is just sad - the seller is just a simple liar.

Topps Heritage Albert Pujols

From his description:

"We are foul line field box season ticket holders and Albert personally autographed this card for me in 2004 before a game."

My email to him:

Sorry, but I just don't see the autograph on this card. Are you saying that the red signature on the back of the card was personally signed for you by Albert Pujols?

His response:

Yes. >>

Wow that's absurd.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · October 5, 2009 5:32AM

From the seller

It's the wrong card. I have his signature on another card which I gave to my son and mistook it for this one when I went through my cards. It's too late to change as there has already been a bid so I'm thinking of ending the auction. Sorry for your trouble.

<< This one is just sad - the seller is just a simple liar.

Topps Heritage Albert Pujols

From his description:

"We are foul line field box season ticket holders and Albert personally autographed this card for me in 2004 before a game."

My email to him:

Sorry, but I just don't see the autograph on this card. Are you saying that the red signature on the back of the card was personally signed for you by Albert Pujols?

His response:

Yes. >>

slantycouch · October 7, 2009 7:00AM

I don't know if the auto is fake, but I'm pretty sure the 1/1 designation is.

Ryan Howard 2006 Bowman Heritage

Looks like a normal relic card auto'd and numbered 1/1. Card back makes no mention of an auto.

MinorLeagueSource · October 12, 2009 1:06AM

Check out some of these new fakes Burge & Gai came up with. They ruined a $200 1994 Classic Arod.

Burge

lawnmowerman · October 12, 2009 1:34AM

Speaking of weird angles, check out the "22" on this "Emmitt auto". The auto flows one way and then the number 22 goes another.

edit: I have seen the "22" go on a slight slant before but never vertical..that's just stupid.

Real:

vladguerrero · October 12, 2009 5:54AM

<< I don't know if the auto is fake, but I'm pretty sure the 1/1 designation is.

Ryan Howard 2006 Bowman Heritage

Looks like a normal relic card auto'd and numbered 1/1. Card back makes no mention of an auto. >>

also look closely at the back of the card, it looks like it may even be a borrowed image, maybe in a bgs case?

MinorLeagueSource · October 20, 2009 9:14AM

This seller makes me laugh. They are horrible! He also has a piece of paper with his name in ink so you cant steal his scans:

Funny

MinorLeagueSource · October 20, 2009 9:33AM

This seller has fallen on hard times so he needs to butcher a couple of auto's:

He needs $

NickM · October 20, 2009 3:58PM

If you're going to do fakes, go big.

For only $225, you too can have a signed (in what looks to be Sharpie) James Dean movie poster of Rebel Without a Cause.

He's a really tough autograph, especially because the movie didn't come out until after he died.

It's from our Chinese Connection spammers at NeAutographs (formerly known as Nathan's Autographs).

Nick

StanTheManMusial · October 27, 2009 1:11PM

Here's another one of these forgeries in a PSA holder. It was just listed on Ebay.

Bogus

I wonder if PSA is willing to buy this one back, since they mistakenly slabbed one of the forgeries?

Bigjohn69 · October 27, 2009 1:41PM

Dont laugh my son got a butt ripping for bringing these home,,,(shaking head),,, bj

csmtampa · October 27, 2009 4:12PM

<< Dont laugh my son got a butt ripping for bringing these home,,,(shaking head),,, bj

>>

Why? Their pre printed Topps Deckle edges

fandango · October 27, 2009 9:53PM

<< Here's another one of these forgeries in a PSA holder. It was just listed on Ebay.

Bogus

I wonder if PSA is willing to buy this one back, since they mistakenly slabbed one of the forgeries? >>

this is one of these last cards to get into a PSA holder...it has been sold twice before, it is not new to the market...i estimate there are about 5 fakes in PSA slabs...

StanTheManMusial · October 28, 2009 5:41AM

<< 

<< Here's another one of these forgeries in a PSA holder. It was just listed on Ebay.

Bogus

I wonder if PSA is willing to buy this one back, since they mistakenly slabbed one of the forgeries? >>

this is one of these last cards to get into a PSA holder...it has been sold twice before, it is not new to the market...i estimate there are about 5 fakes in PSA slabs... >>

I realize it's not new, as it's an older grading label that has been passed around on Ebay for some time. I was pointing it out, since it was just recently listed yet again on Ebay. That was the point of this thread. And I have personally seen far more than 5 of the forgeries in PSA slabs over the last 2-3 of years.

My main concern is that I wonder if Joe Orlando will buy this one back, to get it off of the streets? If Joe or Carol reads this thread, maybe they can let us know. It would be nice to get another forgery out of the hobby, so people can stop being burned. Uneducated buyers buy the PSA slab trusting the card and autograph are legit, when in reality, they don't realize they are buying a forgery.

EDIT: spell

StanTheManMusial · October 28, 2009 5:50AM

Also, fandango, what did you ever do with your copy of the Fleer Legacy Pujols auto that was a forgery in a PSA slab? Did you ever approach Joe Orlando about it? Just curious as to what you done, if you don't mind sharing. Thank you.

MinorLeagueSource · October 31, 2009 1:01AM

If you look in his completed auctions a lot of bidders bidded his fakes up really high just to screw him. I love when that happens. He has up all the fakes that Burge & his crew usually have. Fake Jeters, Arods & of course Topps Photo Shoot Football. The Little Suns is 100% fake. The forgers arent just that smart or I guess they really dont care because they just don't know how to make the D.

FAKES FAKES FAKES

Best regards!

MinorLeagueSource · October 31, 2009 8:42AM

A sad attempt:

Jose A Forged

MeteoriteGuy · August 13, 2010 2:53PM

Really Bad Steve Young, eBay 220653938825

The official POST ALL FAKE AUTO'S ON HERE..........

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