Poor Job by GAI

Ironmanfan · September 10, 2009 7:28AM

I was looking at eBay and noted this "signed" Cal Ripken Jr. bat authenticated by GAI...This forgery will be removed by eBay by tomorrow morning, but this is just one example of many, how they have allowed many forgeries to enter the market

gemint · September 10, 2009 8:39AM

At least they'll get a fancy certificate and a useable bat!

swartz1 · September 10, 2009 8:41AM

you sound very confident that it will be off of ebay in the morning...

csmtampa · September 10, 2009 8:43AM

Ripkens Tufton Group used to search eBay for fake Ripken autographs and would get them removed.

Im sure they still do it, so yes, it will be off by tomorrow.

Ironmanfan · September 10, 2009 10:38AM

*poof*

one less forgery on eBay

packCollector · September 10, 2009 10:59AM

I know nothing about ripken autographs so forgive my ignorance. t how is it known this is a forgery by that crappy photo?

KatsCards · September 10, 2009 12:30PM

That is the worst Carl Yastrzemski autograph I have ever seen

bobbyw8469 · September 10, 2009 1:53PM

How are you so sure that is a fake?

lsutigers1973 · September 10, 2009 2:00PM

By no means am I a Ripken auto expert, but that isn't even close.

Ironmanfan · September 10, 2009 2:03PM

<< <i>I know nothing about ripken autographs so forgive my ignorance. t how is it known this is a forgery by that crappy photo? >>

photo looked pretty good to me; the 'autograph' didn't

earlycalguy · September 10, 2009 2:04PM

GAI is desperate and will do anything for money. Baker should be in jail for his fraud

fandango · September 10, 2009 10:49PM

nice catch..good work

NickM · September 11, 2009 7:31AM

Why are you assuming that the bat knob pictured is from the same bat as in the picture with the bad fake autograph?

Nick

WinPitcher · September 11, 2009 7:40AM

I remember when I said much less about Baker and got jumped.

Steve

Ironmanfan · September 11, 2009 9:40AM

<< <i>I remember when I said much less about Baker and got jumped.

Steve >>

jumped by whom?......shouldn't have happened...love the GAI apologists on this board

Ironmanfan · September 11, 2009 9:48AM

<< <i>Why are you assuming that the bat knob pictured is from the same bat as in the picture with the bad fake autograph?

Nick >>

dont you think the eBay eventual buyer would have found this out if it had't been removed beforehand?..."what if" this and "what if" that....

i have a question...."what if" GAI was "authenicating" forgeries?

swartz1 · September 11, 2009 10:00AM

What if other companies besides GAI are authenticating forgeries?

What if others from the ebay community report fakes to ebay but dont have the "clout" to have them removed?

csmtampa · September 11, 2009 10:21AM

There are other non authentic autographs that passed by authentication companies.

There are authentic autographs that don't pass, as it just depends on who is doing the authenticating.

Some know their stuff a little better than the other.

Now when it comes to GAI, there are countless times they have made errors.

Do you see how many fake Mantle, Aaron, Dimaggio, and Williams autographs that are authenticated by GAI are in the market?

Do you notice how cheap these go for compared to an authentic?

If you want to see something ridiculous that they authenticated, and later had to buy back, click this
Link

Authentication companies are far from perfect, but PSA/DNA and JSA are doing a real good job.

GAI is not, and thats why you can buy "autographs" that are "authenticated" by them for cheap.......

As for other fakes on ebay that get reported, if the person does a PSA/DNA quick opinion on it, and it comes back questionable, usually the item will be removed.

Now if you have total faith in GAI authenticated items, then by all means invest in them. But in the future when you go to sell them, don't be shocked when a major auction house laughs at you.

Just like a lot of you wouldn't trust a card graded by GAI, it's the same on the autograph side.

csmtampa · September 11, 2009 1:21PM

Also, currently on ebay you will find a ton of Rivera, Kalas, Arod, Utley, and on and on by the same 3-4 sellers of garbage.......

NickM · September 12, 2009 5:00PM

<< <i><< Why are you assuming that the bat knob pictured is from the same bat as in the picture with the bad fake autograph?

Nick >>

dont you think the eBay eventual buyer would have found this out if it had't been removed beforehand?..."what if" this and "what if" that....

i have a question...."what if" GAI was "authenicating" forgeries? >>

Based on that, sellers would never put in pictures of items they don't own.
There are lots of varieties of eBay scams that are based on a picture of something the seller doesn't have.
Examples:

"win" with your own shill, and then offer the highest real bidder the chance to purchase an identical item off eBay by check or m.o.

package of no value sent to someone else in the same zip code with delivery confirmation

(this one would be very hard to pull with a bat) empty package with slit in it but fully insured

take the money and run before the buyer receives the package

Nick

Poor Job by GAI

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