Interesting submission story

FilamCoins

Well, sent 8 NGC/ANACS coins in for cross-over service for my new registry set.

One had a CAC sticker. The other 7 did not.

All crossed at the same grade, except the one with the CAC sticker.

Not sure I can draw any conclusions from this, but thought I would share.

For those following submission times, the coins were received on Aug 8th and posted today.

Here is the coin in question if anyone is interested. NGC calls it a 65.

barbershopper

I LIKE IT!!!

JT

19Lyds

So did the CAC coin upgrade or downgrade?

relicsncoins

Looks nice to me. Did you use the economy tier?

FilamCoins

1891 Dime DNC.

This was the free submission that comes with membership.

Boom

Hmmm! Interesting.

Very nice coin BTW!

If you have any questions I'm sure Don Willis
would answer them if at all possible.

19Lyds

Unfortunately, if a coin does not grade, you'll get a Genuine Slab with at least one reason for it not grading but for crossovers, no reason is ever given for it not crossing.

Perhaps they didn't like the surface? Maybe they thought it was a 64? Maybe they didn't like the toning?

The only real way to find out is to crack it and submit it but I don;t see that happening.

Wolf359

Must be a fluke. Everyone knows that CAC is better than PCGS!

PerryHall

You almost get the feeling PCGS doesn't like CAC.

Res

That could be the trick to getting NGC slabs to cross. Throw in one CAC certified slab and they'll cross all the others for spite.

ricko

Interesting.. I would have graded it 64, and a CAC sticker would seem to say they agreed with 65... will you resubmit? Cheers, RickO

doh

It's far more amazing that you went 7/7 on (un-CAC'd) NGC coins crossing at the same grade than the CAC coin not crossing IMHO.

lkeigwin

<< <i>Unfortunately, if a coin does not grade, you'll get a Genuine Slab with at least one reason for it not grading; but for crossovers, no reason is ever given for it not crossing. >>

This is true. But it wasn't always. Shoot, only a year ago you'd get a cert sticker, with a cert number, on an empty flip that would say something like "min grade MS64".

I loved that practice as much as I hated the results. Lots of learning, lots of tuition.

I think PCGS felt it caused trouble too often. Particularly when they later saw the same coin raw and had to lower the grade even further. Oh boy, that's a fun message to deliver to the customer.
Lance.

Billet7

<< <i>It's far more amazing that you went 7/7 on (un-CAC'd) NGC coins crossing at the same grade than the CAC coin not crossing IMHO. >>



Agreed.

grip

<< <i>It's far more amazing that you went 7/7 on (un-CAC'd) NGC coins crossing at the same grade than the CAC coin not crossing IMHO. >>



Must have selected them very, very dilegently.

yellowkid

<< <i>I LIKE IT!!!

JT >>

IrishMike

Given the current environment I can only guess that perhaps they were too sure about the toning. It might have indicated a no-no to them. Nice coin and you must have a good eye to get receive so many cross-overs.

coinmanic

Maybe they thought the green toning on the holder was artificial.

mozin

You did very well getting 7 of 8 ANACS coins to cross at grade. The CAC coin has toning, that I think, maybe PCGS thought was iffy enough to bag it.

I have a batch of ANACS coins ready to submit for crossover. Since you did so well, this may be the time to ship.

FilamCoins

With all the recent news on crossover failures, I'm feeling a bit better.

GrumpyEd

You must be picking nice coins to get 7 to cross.

I still like the dime without crossing it.

Congrats on the results