Opinions please

wybrit · August 20, 2009 10:17PM

There's a rare 6d for sale on ebay. I wanted to get your opinions on condition and surfaces (I've already formed mine). As you can see from the auction, the price has already taken off. This is I believe only the third high grade example I've ever seen for sale.

I thought the seller's writeup about the Royal Mint in 1882 was interesting. It is most certainly a very tough date for all silver struck that year.

ajaan · August 20, 2009 10:20PM

I think Unc. but the image makes it look cleaned. Nice strong die crack.

JCMhouston · August 20, 2009 10:39PM

It is really hard to tell from that image, but I am leaning toward "Genuine". Lots of little marks, so on a good day it might slide through as a 58-62, although the details look unc it looks to me like friction in the fields.

farthing · August 20, 2009 10:47PM

I agree with ajaan, it looks like it's been cleaned in the past.

theboz11 · August 20, 2009 11:06PM

Looks original but the absence of luster in the fields and the amount of dings lead me to believe it is Circ and no higher than ms 50,,,,, IF it is Unc, I would say 60

The rim notches on the rev makes me think this was mounted. 8 , 10 and 3

MacCrimmon · August 21, 2009 1:15AM

Cleaned or circ., plus the gash on the rev. might result in a 'no grade'.

In any event, there's a nicer one in the PCGS Registry.

wybrit · August 21, 2009 4:10AM

Thanks for the responses. I wasn't going to bid unless it was cheap, but £180 is a bit much at this point. I'm glad I found my example in, of all places, a MN coin show.

Can anyone who has an account tell me if NGC has any MS pop of this date?

MacCrimmon · August 21, 2009 4:41AM

<< <i>Thanks for the responses. I wasn't going to bid unless it was cheap, but £180 is a bit much at this point. I'm glad I found my example in, of all places, a MN coin show.

Can anyone who has an account tell me if NGC has any MS pop of this date? >>

NGC has graded ZERO sixpences of this date.

ajaan · August 21, 2009 4:42AM

Zero of this date according to their pop. Take that with a grain of salt. According to their census no Thai coins have been graded by NGC. It isn't true.

MacCrimmon · August 21, 2009 4:48AM

<< <i>Zero of this date according to their pop. Take that with a grain of salt. According to their census no Thai coins have been graded by NGC. It isn't true. >>

stevereecy · August 21, 2009 6:28AM

<< <i>Zero of this date according to their pop. Take that with a grain of salt. According to their census no Thai coins have been graded by NGC. It isn't true. >>

Don, not trying to hijack the posters thread, but I'm morbidly curious about an MS67 Swiss Franc (One franc) dated 1943 that I just "found" in my closet. How does it measure up?

Now, regarding the poster's thread, it does look like it has a little rub on the upper cheek and the ear, so its likely a high AU. If it was BU, I'm more generous and I'd say its a 63 to a shot 65 because she only give the impression that she's fallen down on her front yard, rather than hurt her face wrecking her skateboard.

Steve

wybrit · August 21, 2009 6:41AM

NGC has graded ZERO sixpences of this date.

Kewl! Top pop (and only one on record as graded) at both big TPGs then...

coinkat · August 21, 2009 7:26AM

pass- very disturbing fields

wybrit · August 21, 2009 9:13PM

I agree with everyone's comments about cleaning. The darkness across the head and fields definitely indicate as such. The periphery looks more original and that is frequently the case for cleaned pieces. I never liked the coin either, but as I said above, I would have gone for it at £100 or less, given its understated rarity. That's academic now. It's at £205 with 23 bids!!

7Jaguars · August 22, 2009 2:04AM

Ridiculous price, and that is as you say a L100 coin. I have a couple and like to think of them as scarcer bits. I have seen more problems with the shilling of this date in terms of getting true uncs, and wonder if the floring llack of minting of the florin was due to the shutdown at the mint. The 3d somewhat scarce and won't go there with the London minted penny.

Back to this coin: it appears to have a cloth or similar cleaning with luster loss uniformly across the fields and devices but with retained luster about the lettering. I think it was a GEF save for the mentioned gash but for this cleaning which, once again IMO, really dinged the quality and therefore value.

wybrit · August 22, 2009 8:43AM

Now up to £225. I'd sure like to know where these bidders are when I have auctions!!!

TwoKopeiki · August 22, 2009 11:36AM

Looks cleaned, based on the lack of luster in the fields.

wybrit · August 24, 2009 9:09PM

This has been one of the crazier ebay auctions I've seen in a while. 37 bids, £452. In the middle of the summer, yet!!!

Does this mean that a PCGS slabbed MS grade piece would sell for more? Don't bet on it. We're talking about "bidiots" here (I love that term, wish I could lay claim to its coining).

By an interesting coincidence, another seller has listed an 1882 as UNC, but has very poor pictures. This auction has been quiet for quite some time and is only just now attracting interest from the also-rans.

coinkat · August 25, 2009 8:20AM

Bidiots

What a classic!

Aethelred · August 25, 2009 9:03AM

IMO something un-natural has happened to that coin.

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