1977 Venezuelan Jim Palmer

swartz1

My brother has this card and is looking for info (I know nothing about them) and I apologize for the poor scans...the first time he used his scanner...Would this grade well? with qualifiers? Is it common for the card to bleed through the back?

I see in the Bible it is valued at $125.00 in NM seems kinda high...

Any experienced collectors with this issue? please help out with more info...

I saw the highest graded Palmer is a 2...

Opinions? thanks

firedawg45

that looks like a nice ven to me swartz..i seen alot of them and that is real nice atleast a psa 3 to me or better. get it graded, gotta find a palmer master set guy..

TonyC

Venezuelans are always in demand, the 1960s' more so than the 1977's, but still, they're tough.

nam812

Wouldn't that card have to get a MC qualifier, or do Venezuelan cards have different standards?

lsutigers1973

Didn't know Palmer was from Venezuela.

corvette1340

<< <i>Didn't know Palmer was from Venezuela. >>



yes, little known fact about Palmer. His name is actually pronounced Jeem.

DavidPuddy

I only need about 5 cards to complete the 77 Ven. set. Most of mine are PSA 1's and PSA 2's. My last batch got a bunch of MC qual's, so I think that PSA has started to give out that qualifier more then they used to on the Ven's.
That Palmer is VERY nice. I don't see any glue residue on the back, and the corners look good.
If it doesn't have any folds, paper loss, or EOT, that card could grade as high as 7mc. Making it one of the highest graded 77 Vens in existence.
I've only seen 2 or 3 Ven's that didn't have any excess paper on the back, glue residue, or paper loss. They almost always have one of those conditions.

If I were looking to buy a card that looked as nice as that Ven. I would be very wary of making the purchase. I've never seen a Ven. that clean, and since they were printed on paper they may be very easy to counterfeit. Believe me I'm not saying that your brother's Palmer is counterfit, but I would get it put into a holder ASAP.

swartz1

thanks for the info...very informative...

my brother bought it years ago in North Jersey at a card show...

he found it in a dollar box and it struck him as odd...so he bought it...

thanks all!!

mikeschmidt

that's a phenomenally nice VZ Palmer. Congrats!

DavidPuddy

... so you have something for comparison. This is what they typically look like. Notice the older grades Vs. the newer grades.


Edited for larger scan.

swartz1

first trip to CA not holdered...

second trip ...

70 1 17643785 N0: AUTHENTIC 1977 VENEZUELAN LEAGUE STICKERS 160 JIM PALMER

rbeaton

Very tough card. Here's mine:



Robert

Dboneesq

How does this latest one get a "2" and the one from the OP an AUTHENTIC? Is the backing peeled off? Some other reason?

DavidPuddy

<< <i>first trip to CA not holdered...

second trip ...

70 1 17643785 N0: AUTHENTIC 1977 VENEZUELAN LEAGUE STICKERS 160 JIM PALMER >>



If it was my card I would ask for some clarification on that grade. What are they seeing that would only give that card an Authentic grade?
If they're saying that the card is a real Ven. and that it's not trimmed then there's no reason for the A grade. IMO.

Maybe a quick note to Joe is in order?

DavidPuddy

<< <i>How does this latest one get a "2" and the one from the OP an AUTHENTIC? Is the backing peeled off? Some other reason? >>



They didn't have any kind of backing. They're simply a think paper stock that was supported to be glued into an album. The OP's example looks like it was just ripped from a pack (or however they distributed those cards).
It's super nice, and I'll say it again,, it's by FAR the nicest one I've ever seen.

CrazyMind2017

When measured in pixels and projected to scale, it's 2.50 x 3.27 inches...... likely they think it has been trimmed.... not saying it has actually been trimmed, but the grader may have suspected it and was uncomfortable giving it any grade other than A.

rbeaton's card measures out at 2.50 x 3.34 inches.